[Imc-uk-features] Antisemitism, Nimmo etal.

[mish]

I've done a little reading around the subject - thanks ftp for finding
all the quotes you did.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/mmid/imc-uk-features/2007-0425-i9

Of the two blog posts referred to by Nim Chimpsky

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=241

Contains nothing remotely near holocaust denial.  It criticises another
blogger who rejoices in David Irving being convicted.

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=236

Again about the conviction of David Irving, saying that it will be
celebrated by Zionists, and comparing David Irving's treatment with the
treatment of those publishing cartoons of the prophet mohammed.  Nothing
to sustain charges of Holocaust Denial apart from part of one sentence

"... with Auschwitz and its discredited gas chambers."

So this word (discredited) is the root of the charge.  On the wikipedia
talk page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kurt_Nimmo - there is
debate about it.  The explanation (seemingly by Kurt Nimmo) is

        "There are not "numerous" references to "Holocaust denial" in my
        writings, so this linkage will not be possible. In a blog post
        (February 20th 2006), in regard to the conviction of David
        Irving, I wrote that the gas chambers were "discredited." If you
        bother to use a dictionary, you will notice that "discredited"
        is defined as "cause to be doubted." Indeed, this is the case
        with at least one historian, Franciszek Piper, a Polish scholar,
        historian, author, and former chair of the Historical Department
        at the Auschwitz State Museum (indeed, museum director) and is
        currently associated with the Państwowe Muzeum,
        Auschwitz-Birkenau, so I imagine that gives him a bit of
        credence. It should come as no surprise that people argue about
        historical facts surrounding the Holocaust and indeed the
        history of the Second World War. But for those intolerant of
        discussion, those who dispute the historical record, even in
        minor fashion, are "Holocaust deniers" and "anti-Semites." I
        suppose, as well, Lech Walesa is a "Holocasut denier," as he
        revised number of dead inscribed on the Birkenau monument
        downward from 4,000,000 to 1,500,000. I see no mention of this
        in his Wikipedia entry or accusations that he is a "Holoacust
        denier." But then, far as I can ascertain, he is not a critic of
        Zionism, so obviously he does not deserve the same treatment. As
        for the publication of my blog entries on other sites, related
        to the Holocaust or otherwise, Shrike should realize reposts
        happen continually, without my permission, so I have no control
        over where my writing appears. For the record, I do not submit
        my writing ANYWHERE, although anybody is free to repost it."

In the absence of other evidence pointing to him being a holocaust
denier, and particularly with the many quotes that ftp found on the blog
referring to the holocaust and mass murder by the Nazis, I think it
would be unfair to say that Kurt Nimmo is a holocaust denier.

>From the two blog posts above I do not see that Nummo "clearly endorses
Irving and his denial thesis."  Objecting to a conviction is not
endorsing the actions that Irving was convicted for.  He does appear to
say that he believes that the standard history of the holocaust is a
little inaccurate, but he states in many other places that the nazis
murdered many millions of people including Jews.

mish