[Imc-uk-features] Climate Camp features?

[jagmad at riseup.net]

On Tue, August 21, 2007 5:03 am, yossarian wrote:
> jagmad at riseup.net wrote:
>> I have three questions concerning the Climate Camp features.
>>
>>
>> Why wasn't the 24 hour rule observed for some of them and why are
>> certain people allowed to circumvent it?
>>
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> During large actions, the 24-hour rule does not apply.  This has been
> the case for the last seven years, it's not a question of "certain people",
> just how things are done.  If you check the features list for past
> actions, you'll see that this has always been the case.
>
Thanks. I wasn't aware of this. How is it decided that an action is large
enough not to involve the 24 hour rule?
>
>> Why weren't some 15 or more neglected videos of the event not linked
>> from those features?
>>
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> I don't know, but if you collect the URLs of the videos and post them to
> the list they'll probably be linked.  It is possible that the people doing
> the features were hit with information overload and missed linking them.
> If the info gets fed to the feature writers in a nice format then
> anything that was missed will get added.
>
Assuming the feature writers are known when there is no 24 hour rule. I
haven't a clue who did the features.

At the beginning, when the Camp was first occupied, two video links
appeared and then disappeared. Following that there were no video links
for a while and then brand new ones started to appear towards the end of
the event. In between several videos were missed but were picked up by
someone and sent to YouTube. Surely the people doing the features must
have seen them promoted on the newswire?

Talking of the YouTube presentation this would seem to be a good model to
follow, with videos gathered together in one place instead of being
scattered around.
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>> An unknown individual
>> http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378596.html
>> took it upon themselves to collect those videos together and post them
>> on YouTube, which normally would be frowned upon, but in this particular
>> case it seems they have done contributing videographers and their
>> audience a considerable service.
>>
>> Why wasn't the ticker converted to a more mobile friendly version
>> following my comments?
>>
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> I asked about the ticker page in IRC at some point, if I remember
> correctly I think Ben said that the ticker showed up fine in iMobile.
>
Indeed it did but in the features there is the non mobile version, still
with its left hand column, which is not via iMobile.
>
>> It does seem that both videographers and mobile users do not rate very
>> highly on IMCUK, for reasons which still elude me. Concerning the
>> former, they often risk arrest at public events in order to provide
>> their contributions and I think this should be taken into account when
>> treating their work so dismissively.
>>
>> Doug.
>>
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> We have a shortage of developers doing coding work at the moment,
> personally I'd like to improve our video capabilities because I think the
> site is a disaster from the video standpoint.
>
We seem to agree on that but isn't this really due to a general lack of
interest in video among the collective?
>
>  The work that Ben has done
> on mobile stuff has been pretty good though, I think, and youv'e been
> doing some stuff too, no?
>
> Yoss
>
The work that Ben has done is excellent but what happened to the MMS link
to the Newswire? Things we moving forward nicely and then suddenly stopped
without any explanation.

Yes I have been interested in mobile access and have used it to and from
the newswire but most people still seem to prefer voice, which is fine
when there is someone actually on the other end ready and willing to relay
the information. Though a voice call I made from the Climate Camp cost me
an astonishing £2, while 3g access to the imobile ticker came out at less
than 15p. If I send text to a newswire publish form it seldom costs more
than 50p.

What is happening with your calender? I am not sure how much longer I will
be around to moderate the existing one.

Doug
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