[Imc-uk-features] classic anti-semitic horseshit...

[yossarian]

freethepeeps at aktivix.org wrote:
> Quoting yossarian <yossarian at aktivix.org>:
> 
>> freethepeeps at aktivix.org wrote:
>> there isn't a century of racist conspiracy theory 
>> in Europe about Pakistanis wanting to rule the world. 
> 
> I see. And neither can there be one about the state of Israel wanting to rule
> the world, because it didn't come into existence until 1948.


Are you serious?  Israel is a regional power in the Middle East, but I
think that world domination is kind of beyond their geopolitical
reach...Israel vs. the United States?  Israel vs. China or India or
Russia?  This is hard for me to take seriously.  What else should I be
afraid of, a Sri Lankan invasion of the UK?  A Nicaraguan attack on
France?  I'll sleep easy :)


> 
> The point, once again, is that the person who is equating criticism of Israel
> with Jews is you yossarian.


No, I have said repeatedly that I don't equate these two things.  A
Palestinian saying "I am against Israel" is not the same as a Nazi
saying "I am against Israel".  One is, let's say, demanding freedom from
military occupation, the other is driven by nothing but racial hatred.


> 
> There was no evidence in the article that the poster was.
> 


I keep reminding you, whenever we have enough evidence to investigate
"New World Order" and "Israel" posts they almost invariably end up being
*really bad*.


> I personally think it very likely that the rich and powerful have secret groups
> which aim to alter the course of events - you could call that a conspiracy
> theory if you like.
> 
> I don't think it is anything whatsoever to do with jews, and I have no
> antagonism towards jews.


I have never said I thought you were racist and I don't think that, I'm
just amazed that you don't seem to notice that there are a lot of people
who are.


> 
> So, if you think that is an anti-semitic then you are plain and simply wrong.
> 


No, I don't think your statement above is anti-semitic, but it's also
got nothing to do with Jews, Israel, etc.  So, cool.  I could say that I
 think institutions like investment funds, the World Bank, private
control of resources, and corporate decision-making are much more
important in structuring the world than any "conspiracy", but that's a
different discussion entirely.



> "I am admittedly connecting the dots but not in a way that I think 
> is unwarranted."
> 
> The whole point of this exchange is that I disagree with your conclusion.

> Which part of the guidelines says that an individual mod may "connect the
> dots"?


Ok, well, if you disagree really strongly on this one, go ahead and
unhide a post which says that:

1. a conspiracy by "Israel" (certainly not "the Jews", since nobody ever
mentioned them in this particular post) exists to achieve world
domination.

Note: Although this conspiracy may bear superficial resemblance to
earlier, Jewish, projects aimed at world domination, it actually has
nothing to do with them.

2. Israel perpetrated the WTC attacks.

Note: This is not framed in the article as an act of state policy, but
rather as part of the "conspiracy" of "Israelis", which I'm sure
includes Arab Israelis, because it would be wrong of me to think that
the moron who posted this article is a racist, and to assume he/she was
speaking only of the Jewish citizens of Israel would be flawed.

3. Israel will soon use nuclear weapons against the United States and
blame the action on someone else as part of their grand conspiracy for
global dominion.

Note once more: this has absolutely nothing to do with any previous
Jewish conspiracies to achieve world domination which received so much
press in the 1930s and 1940s, and still gets a lot of press among the
radical right.

To me, this is a goofy, piece of crap, racist post, which offers little
in the way of advancing any positive social movement values.  I could
say I'd hide it because it is simply incorrect given anyone's present,
proven knowledge about the World Trade Center attacks, but I won't do so.

If you really believe all of the statements in it, then unhide it.

Greets,

Yossarian