[Imc-uk-features] feature proposal: A Taste Of Things To Come

[jagmad at riseup.net]

Whew! I have nothing against the feature in principle but lets not get
carried away. Check your timescales. Where is the evidence that the Gulf
Stream will stop a mere 5 years from now and will cause minus 40 degrees?
How long has it been going and it is probably cyclical anyway? So we had
similar floods just 50 years ago? So what? 'Since records began' is
slightly more convincing but still by no means conclusive when considered
on a realistic timescale. The last GLOBAL ice age was about 10,000 years
ago, attributable to Milankovitch Cycles, and the next one could occur as
much as 50,000 years from now.

The reality is that extreme events considered in the UK alone are a poor
indicator of GLOBAL warming. All you can say is that any freak weather
here is likely to become more frequent and this is what it is going to be
like when it happens, only worse.

So, cut out the timescales bit and everything should be fine.

Doug.

On Sat, June 30, 2007 6:42 pm, earth aid wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> In my opinion the story is factual and possibly shows a turning point in
> the way the mainstream media is dealing with climate change. Britain is
> about to suffer severe consequences of global warming like heatwaves with
> temperatures as high as 40 degrees, and the Gulf Stream will stop about
> 2012 bringing a new ice age with minus 40 degrees.
> If you want the movement related angle Channel Four is desperate for a
> behind the scenes exclusive on the Camp for Climate Action and the groups
> that will be there and what they stand for, and this is likely to be
> agreed for broadcast about a week or two after the Live Earth concerts.
> The Climate Camp networking group have been asked to provide someone to
> be interviewed on behalf of the Camp itself, and Rising Tide, Earth
> First, Plane Stupid, the Campaign Against Climate Change etc will be
> invited to take part as well. Magic Dave will probably be speaking on
> behalf of Peace not War and the Creative Forum and Angel and Sunshine
> will represent the Childrens' Revolution group. You can talk to Magic Dave
> directly on 07986465552 and Angel on 07862100817 any time if you want
> quotes and you can quote me as well if you like. There will be a series of
> stories related to the Climate Camp going worldwide soon and they will
> all start on Indymedia UK if you want them to. (I am acting on behalf of a
> small tribe of independent eco warriors and their friends.) Cheers,
> Jubal Harshaw,
> THE EARTH AID ENVIRONMENTAL CAMPAIGN
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: startx <startx at plentyfact.org>
> To: imc-uk-features at lists.indymedia.org
> Sent: Sunday, 1 July, 2007 2:43:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Imc-uk-features] feature proposal: A Taste Of Things To Come
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> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:39:04 +0100
> WietsE <wietse at indymedia.org> wrote:
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>> Hiya,
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>> I'd like to propose this feature about the recent floods and climate
>> change to the UK, Notts and Sheffield site as well as the climate chaos
>> topic.
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>> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/NottsFeaturePage2
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>> Cheers, Wietse
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> hi everybody.
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> a quick response as its late but i have serious objections against this
> feature: not the climate change is not an important issue, but i
> cannot see any movement related issues the the feature as it is. the
> feature is almost only referring to very suspicious sources as tabloid
> press, stupid politicians, and lots of links to mainstream media as the
> star and bbc.
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>> Even the tabloids are linking the storms to climate change. The
>> Mirror reported that "Flood damage is becoming more common because of
>> global warming" while warning that insurance companies will increasingly
>> refuse to insure homes built on flood plains.
>
> well, some tabloiad reported that "the sun will explode soon" or that the
> end of the world is near (thats a tabloid issue once a year at least). if
> you want to convince people that climate change is a serious issue, better
> dont quote such sources.
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>> (former) Prime Minister, Tony Blair said that he thought the floods
>> were related to such major global issues in his joint press conference
>> with Arnold Schwarzenegger. While the met office warns of further storms
>> to come during the next week,
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> uuh, i wouldnt believe blair or schwarzenegger even if they say the earth
> is ball-shaped.
>
>> Sir David King warned
>> that in the long-term, as Greenland ice disappeared, rising sea levels
>> would wipe out Britain's coastal town and cities. "The message that
>> climate change is the biggest change our civilisation has ever had to
>> face up to is getting out there.
>
> sorry again, it might be somehow true, but britain will probably one of
> the last countries in the world suffering under climate change, before
> that happens, millions of poeple will be dead in asia and other countries
> of the global south. there might be some truth in what he says, but well
> ...
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