[Imc-uk-features] feature proposal: A Taste Of Things To Come

Sun Jul 1 03:47:23 PDT 2007

To the People of the World,
Russian scientists measuring the Gulf Stream claimed in 2006 that it had slowed by 30% and it would stop completely within six years, bringing Siberian temperatures to Britain and Europe overnight.
The Met Hadley Centre confirmed this about six months later as reported on the BBC Horizon programme. Trillions of gallons of fresh water are pouring into the Atlantic off the coast of Greenland every day, reducing the salinity of the Gulf Stream slowing it down, so this process is irreversible. This is not a cycle but is the direct result of global warming melting the Greenland ice shelf which is rapidly sliding into the ocean as water from the surface sinks down and lubricates the base. This has not been reported as hot news in any mainstream papers yet, but it is is a time bomb waiting to go off and Indymedia would be a good place to start. The "eco warriors" are planning massive opposition to the Olympics along with local residents in Hackney and Stratford. However the priority right now is to defend Sipson village which has been earmarked for demolition for the third runway at Heathrow. The entire Environmental Movement worldwide is gearing up for what could be the
 biggest eco protest campaign in history, starting with the Camp for Climate Action from 14 to 21 August near Heathrow Airport, and carrying on with an Earth Fair Consumer Revolt and a permanent camp for peace and the environment. These ideas have been seriously discussed for ten years and the planning is now in progress. That is the relationship between the story about the present flooding and the Movement. There are extreme weather events happening all over the world right now. Worldwide drought especially in Australia, America and Brazil. The rainforest is dying and will never recover. Island nations are disappearing, Bangladesh is flooding, the Inuit eskimos' homeland is melting, and Climate Indymedia says the worst predictions about global warming will come true within five years, and not in 100 years. Dr James Hansen of NASA says the Earth is in "imminent peril". A secret report from the Pentagon in 2004 leaked to the Observer newspaper warned the White House that
 worldwide flooding would start in 2007 and global warming posed a massive security risk to the United States. The human race faces extinction this century according to Professor Peter Barret, Director of the Antarctic Research Centre in New Zealand. In my opinion Indymedia should be taking global warming and climate change far more seriously than it has so far. There is no debate necessary any more, it is time for direct action again. 
(You can quote me on every word of this, but bear in mind that the agreed spokespeople for the children of the eco warriors are Magic Dave and Angel who can be contacted directly at any time. The worldwide media campaign is about to begin and it should logically start with Indymedia UK.)
Ignorance is not bliss, goodbye cruel world,
Jubal Harshaw

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From: "jagmad at riseup.net" <jagmad at riseup.net>
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Sent: Sunday, 1 July, 2007 8:46:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Imc-uk-features] feature proposal: A Taste Of Things To Come

Whew! I have nothing against the feature in principle but lets not get carried away. Check your timescales. Where is the evidence that the Gulf Stream will stop a mere 5 years from now and will cause minus 40 degrees? How long has it been going and it is probably cyclical anyway? So we had
similar floods just 50 years ago? So what? 'Since records began' is slightly more convincing but still by no means conclusive when considered on a realistic timescale. The last GLOBAL ice age was about 10,000 years ago, attributable to Milankovitch Cycles, and the next one could occur as
much as 50,000 years from now.
The reality is that extreme events considered in the UK alone are a poor indicator of GLOBAL warming. All you can say is that any freak weather here is likely to become more frequent and this is what it is going to be like when it happens, only worse.
So, cut out the timescales bit and everything should be fine.
Doug.

On Sat, June 30, 2007 6:42 pm, earth aid wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 In my opinion the story is factual and possibly shows a turning point in the way the mainstream media is dealing with climate change. Britain is about to suffer severe consequences of global warming like heatwaves with temperatures as high as 40 degrees, and the Gulf Stream will stop about 2012 bringing a new ice age with minus 40 degrees. If you want the movement related angle Channel Four is desperate for a behind the scenes exclusive on the Camp for Climate Action and the groups that will be there and what they stand for, and this is likely to be agreed for broadcast about a week or two after the Live Earth concerts. The Climate Camp networking group have been asked to provide someone to be interviewed on behalf of the Camp itself, and Rising Tide, Earth First, Plane Stupid, the Campaign Against Climate Change etc will be invited to take part as well. Magic Dave will probably be speaking on behalf of Peace not War and the Creative Forum and Angel and Sunshine will
 represent the Childrens' Revolution group. You can talk to Magic Dave directly on 07986465552 and Angel on 07862100817 any time if you want quotes and you can quote me as well if you like. There will be a series of stories related to the Climate Camp going worldwide soon and they will all start on Indymedia UK if you want them to. (I am acting on behalf of a small tribe of independent eco warriors and their friends.) 
Cheers,
Jubal Harshaw,
THE EARTH AID ENVIRONMENTAL CAMPAIGN

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 From: startx startx at plentyfact.org  To: imc-uk-features at lists.indymedia.org
 Sent: Sunday, 1 July, 2007 2:43:58 AM
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:39:04 +0100
WietsE <wietse at indymedia.org> wrote:

 Hiya,
I'd like to propose this feature about the recent floods and climate change to the UK, Notts and Sheffield site as well as the climate chaos topic.
 https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/NottsFeaturePage2
 Cheers, Wietse

hi everybody.
a quick response as its late but i have serious objections against this feature: not the climate change is not an important issue, but i cannot see any movement related issues the the feature as it is. the feature is almost only referring to very suspicious sources as tabloid press, stupid politicians, and lots of links to mainstream media as the star and bbc.
Even the tabloids are linking the storms to climate change. The Mirror reported that "Flood damage is becoming more common because of  global warming" while warning that insurance companies will increasingly refuse to insure homes built on flood plains. well, some tabloiad reported that "the sun will explode soon" or that the end of the world is near (thats a tabloid issue once a year at least). if you want to convince people that climate change is a serious issue, better dont quote such sources (former) Prime Minister, Tony Blair said that he thought the floods were related to such major global issues in his joint press conference with Arnold Schwarzenegger. While the met office warns of further storms to come during the next week, uuh, i wouldnt believe blair or schwarzenegger even if they say the earth is ball-shaped. Sir David King warned that in the long-term, as Greenland ice disappeared, rising sea levels would wipe out Britain's coastal town and cities. "The message
 that climate change is the biggest change our civilisation has ever had to face up to is getting out there.
sorry again, it might be somehow true, but britain will probably one of the last countries in the world suffering under climate change, before that happens, millions of poeple will be dead in asia and other countries of the global south. there might be some truth in what he says, but well
startx.
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