[Imc-uk-features] 374728
ben
ben at riseup.net
Wed Jul 4 06:17:09 PDT 2007
FTP unhid 374728 saying there was no consensus to hid it but since there
is no consensus not to hid it, and it breaches editorial guidelines, I
have hidden it again while discussion continues to rumble on about the
issue.
- from the admin log
2007-06-29 23:21 check for 9/11 truth spam
ben - hidden, inaccurate, speculative comment, no original grassroots news
content
2007-07-03 10:03 freethepeeps show
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-features/2007-July/0703-ok.html
ben - hidden again. inaccurate.
example "A real terrorist would hit the centres of corrupt power and/or
the pockets of the city slickers and merchant bankers, such as the
Bishopsgate, Stock Exchange and Canary Wharf bombs in the 1990s."
blatantly inaccurate. His examples are just a tiny unrepresentative
selection of the attacks carried out by the IRA (were they 'real
terrorists'?). Their other attacks were mostly focused in Northern
Ireland, pubs and busy high streets full of shoppers - not 'the centres of
corrupt power'. Around the world you can find groups classed as terrorists
targeting ordinary people rather than 'the centres of corrupt power' which
doesn't mean they are not 'real' terrorists, it just means they doubtful
tactics and have perhaps poorly considered their strategy.
Another example "MI5 can congratulate themselves because they have found
their own bomb, just remember the bearded SAS soldiers arrested in Iraq,
driving around in a car full of explosives dressed as Arabs.". So, apart
from the contradictory assertion that there was a bomb to be found and the
speculation stated as fact that it belonged to MI5, this sentence asks us
to remember the SAS soldiers arrested in Iraq with a car full of
explosives - however, that's inaccurate and misleading since the car in
question was not full of explosives at all (as shown by the very photos
the 'truth movement' have tried to use to prove the opposite eg. here
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7366). The contents of the car
laid out on display in photos shows a variety of radio equipment, guns,
ammunition, a large car jack, a tool box etc etc. There may well have been
some explosives in among that lot (although I've yet to photos pointing
them out) but to suggest it was 'full of explosives' is clearing
misleading. I don't claim to know what the motives of those SAS soldiers
were but that's not the point. Article 374728 presents an inaccurate
description of the events ("bearded SAS soldiers", that's a new
embellishment) in order to back up the authors speculation about the
incidents in London.
finally, another example (there are more but if three isn't enough of a
waste of time I give up)... "with all those hundreds of thousands of CCTV
cameras in London, we dont seem to have captured any decent image of the
gladio operatives". Inaccurate and hasty speculation apparently as many
papers have reported that the Police have "crystal clear" CCTV images of a
man emerging from the car left in Haymarket. But don't let these details
stand in the way of a good conspiracy.
- ends
ben
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