[Imc-uk-features] hiding comments

[Ilyan]

One does not prevent open publishing when you take down copyright 
material that has already been published.  Breach of copyright could 
result in legal action costs that close the site.  The same with 
criminal postings.  

It is better not to justify the charge of hypocricy that the present  
level of hiding at present does.     It is entirely avoided by 
abandoning the claim and setting up properly defined limits.   

But on the whole there is fairly full agreement with what Chris has 
written. 

Curiosity - what happened to Spanner who did much good work.
Ilyan. 


Chris wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Sun 25-Mar-2007 at 02:48:22PM +0100, Ilyan wrote:
>   
>> No site that hides posts from neo-cons, cops, and
>> zionists, or from the BNP or the National Front, or
>> Hitlerites or Stalinists should lay claim to Open
>> Publishing.  
>>     
>
> But I don't think you are then in favour of open
> publishing because you have argued for the removal of
> copyrighted corporate material in the past, before we have
> even been threatened for having it on the site.
>
> I expect that you would also favour the removal of illegal
> content... So it's not a matter of *if* to draw the line
> it's a matter of *where* to draw the line...
>
>   
>> The benefit of open publishing is that you have the
>> enemies public statements so that your arguments against
>> them are soundly based.  It is no good getting abusive
>> about them when your arguments are unsoundly based, or
>> based on lies.
>>     
>
> I do have some sympathy for this but what happens when
> those people posting in favour of Empire etc have more
> time and resources than we do? The same as what happened
> to Norway IMC (I think it was Norway) -- the site becomes
> dominated by the politics we oppose and ceases to play a
> progressive role, more peopel stop using it, people stop
> admining it and it's dead...
>
>   
>> It might be acceptable if the front page carried
>> information so that anyone could read the hidden
>> comments - at least how to use ?c=all should be
>> mentioned in the place in the Guidelines that leads to
>> View all posts to see the hidden articles.
>>     
>
> Yeah, perhaps.
>
>   
>> Moderators should pay much more attention to the
>> Guideline that says what MAY be hidden.  You do not have
>> to hide it.
>>     
>
> Sure, it's a balancing act, different IMC admins have
> different views on how much should be hidden...
>
> Chris
>
>