[Imc-uk-features] From Gilad Atzmon on the debate you are having

[freethepeeps at aktivix.org]

Quoting mish <mish at aktivix.org>:


> I also dislike the fine lines in the terminology Atzmon uses.  Using
> "Jewish" as the term (or "Jewish political identity") is not going to be
> clear in general, and does lead to being quoted by anti-semites, not to
> mention playing into the hands of the pro-israeli government lobby being
> able to shout "anti-semite".
> 

I'm really unclear about what you're getting at here. Is this reference to the
email, or the article. Can you suggest a term for discussing "Jewish political
identity" that would be acceptable to "the pro-israeli government lobby"
(surely there are people who are loyal to Israel, but not the Israeli
government eg Likudniks?), and not picked up on by anti-semites? 


> 
> On the subject of FTP's block, my understanding is that if a block is
> made then all sides should make an effort to find a position that all
> can agree on.  I think it would be very useful for FTP and yoss to meet
> and discuss these issues.
> 

Well, it would be useful to see the form of CDM that IMC has consensed upon -
is
it documented anywhere?

I personally think it would be easier to start the process by email, and then
to
look at meeting to clarify any issues where we seem to be stuck - because the
whole issue is so sensitive, its useful to be able to use reference material,
and once we are clear on any sticking points, then a meet-up to discuss those
makes more sense to me.

I am struggling to see how this can be consensed upon without participants
having some knowledge of the issues that surround  the usage of the terms
"anti-semitism", and the "new anti-semitism". 

Ho hum

ftp
















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