[Imc-uk-features] 'censorship' WAS: THIS IS VERY URGENT!!!
jagmad at riseup.net
jagmad at riseup.net
Wed Sep 5 03:07:44 PDT 2007
You getting on your high horse, and wrongly ascribing to me the intention
of publishing on YouTube, does not demonstrate any responsibility on your
part.
May I remind you than my video first appeared in the Newswire, was
promoted, someone reposted it to YouTube without my knowledge, and THEN
was first unticked, without informing me first, and subsequently removed
from the server. So where was the need for speed in this case? There was
plenty of time when it first appeared to contact me, even before it was
promoted. Let me guess, the need for speed only occurred AFTER a certain
member of admin suddenly felt vulnerable and complained.
As for incriminating material, what could be more incriminating that two
police videographers present before, during, and after I was filming? Not
only did they get the two demonstrators but they also got me, not that
anyone seems to care about the safety and concerns of contributers on this
particular IMC.
Doug.
On Wed, September 5, 2007 2:33 am, Ben wrote:
> Doug. wrote:
>
>> This is the proper way to deal with it,
>> inform the original poster first before deletion and announce the
>> intention to delete on a public list.
>
> Doug is right that this would be the preferred way to deal with
> videos or photos containing possibly incriminating material but since speed
> is of the essence the first priority must be the removal of such material
> rather than waiting on approval. I am sure that Guido would have removed
> the video himself had he been able to and then spoke to the person
> involved.
>
> If we are to be given access to actions and given free reign
> to video or take pictures of those taking part in those actions then we
> MUST be seen to be thoughtful and responsible
> about the footage we take and publish. Getting on your high horse, shouting
> 'censorship' and threatening to publish on
> google's youtube (the bastion of freespeech - NOT!) does not demonstrate
> any responsibility, just a dangerous disregard for the safety and concerns
> of those taking action.
>
>
>
> ben
>
>
> On Wed, September 5, 2007 1:35 am, Genny wrote:
>
>> I've done this - hope it's not going to be contentious. :o)
>>
>>
>>
>> Genny
>>
>>
>>
>> guidoreports at riseup.net wrote:
>>> For legal reasons this addition:
>>> http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2007/09//380345.mov
>>> Needs to be hidden and deleted NOW! Is that possible? I would
>>>
> rather not
>>> go into why on a public list. I have spoken to the original poster
>>> from Reel News and he is quite happy for this to happen.
>>>
>>>
>>> Once the video clip has been removed it will be reposted with a tiny
>>> bit of modification to avoid someone being sacked/disciplined.
>
>
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