[IMC-UK-Features] feature proposal: Go Indymedia, go! - Response to the SHIfT article

freethepeeps at aktivix.org freethepeeps at aktivix.org
Thu May 22 01:15:23 PDT 2008


Quoting guidoreports at riseup.net:


> 
> 4) Do we really need to open the whole Atzmon affair again? Has this not
> done enough damage already to our internal and external relations? Who
> will benefit from this? Noone except Greenstein as far as I can see. Every
> year he tries kick up a stink about Atzmon playing gigs at leftie events
> like Marxism and commercial music venues. Every year the trots have enough
> common sense to ignore him as do other London venues. It seems to me that
> he craves attention and so far we are the only people who have been stupid
> enough to give it to him.
> 
> G.

Well, it isn't Greenstein who wrote that article - he is incapable of appearing
to be so measured, and he gets dissed in the article - he is also incaopable of
understanding how his behaviour turns people off. Neither has Atzmon had
anything to do with the article.

So, it appears to me that the Atzmon Affair has never been closed - and we are
in danger of repeating what happened when FIT started attacking the movement -
the wisdom was "ignore them - don't let them distract you from your work" and
so the response to them is at a time when they have developed a bigger array of
tactics - had we implemented FITwatch right from the start, we might even be
able to hold the occassional demo every now and again......

We have never come up with a satisfactory response to our Belgian troll and he
is now an integral part of the claims of that article - although it is of
course telling that SHIfT and the author had to dig in the sewers to get their
'shit'.

Someone at network meeting suggested hiding ALL Israel/Palestine posts - which
can never be seen as an act of solidarity with the victims of oppression -
however you try and look and look at it.

The discourse of domination in the I/P scenario has become mainstream, and it
was always my understanding that Indymedia was a response to mainstream
discourse which favoured the powerful......

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