[IMC-UK-Features] Response to Shift's email, was Re: hello

[Bob Maycock]

Hi.  I have been observing this discussion since it started and it seems to me that we really should not dignify this article with a response.  They make what I believe to be a series of inaccurate and unfounded assertions based, or so it would seem, on a limited amount of information backed up by what I hope is  not (but, sadly, suspect may well be) maliciously intended and incredibly biased hogwash.  The article (in common with many of the others that I have seen in their "august" publication) isn't even very well written.  I have a feeling that they have done this simply so that some of us will go out and purchase said organ, or to generate some controversy.  As a sometime contributor and long time lurker, nothing that I have observed suggests anything  such as they describe, particularly with regard to the Israel / Palestine issue, which have seen being discussed at great length in open emails, very far from within any kind of secret clique.   As I said at th e outset
 ignore them.  Don't waist   your time even thinking about them.  Salud, Bob. 

freethepeeps at aktivix.org wrote: I fail to see how the existence of a list for legally sensitive matters, or your
own issue about a video you shot at Climate Camp in any way impact on Shiar's
claim that discussions on the matter of Israel/Palestine or 'conspiracy theory'
issues are not open............... 

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Quoting jagmad at riseup.net:

> While I largely agree with Shiar I must take issue with the following.
> 
> > Where did you get from the idea that discussions within and about
> > Indymedia were ever not open? All our meetings and lists are open and
> > publicly archived and anyone is welcome to participate.
> 
> We all know that at least one list is not open, the one where legal issues
> are discussed privately among a few. Then there are those little IRC
> get-togethers that happen from time to time. Goodness knows what else goes
> on behind closed doors and by private email, which may or may not be
> necessary but please don't deny it.
> 
> I was put on emergency moderation for daring to go public about an item of
> mine that was deleted, as opposed to being hidden, and am still subject to
> moderation on one or two lists because of it. I was also deemed to be too
> untrustworthy to take a more active role in admin as a result. All of
> which can hardly be described as open and public or welcoming.
> 
> Doug.
> 
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