[IMC-UK-Features] [Imc-london-moderation] Feature proposal: Top HLS Investors Dump Shares

[Animal Rep]

So,

 

I realise this has been blocked on London IMC, but it has been 24 hours since my reply when I changed the link to personal details and addressed other concerns, with no follow up concerns on this list. Do the concerns to London IMC reflect here? As I thought they were not only seperate collectives but also independant ones, like York, Scotland & Bristol.

 

Just wondering about the general status of this feature, as it has passed 24 hours without further concerns on the IMC-UK lists at least.

 

ps, it was perviously proposed for; shac, animal liberation, health, world & south coast

 

for anyone interested i addressed the concerns on the london moderation list, though copying & pasting cut my last response, so it's best to check emails. my others replies basically sums up what i was trying to say though, which have yet been fully discussed.

 


From: animalrep at hotmail.co.uk
To: imc-uk-features at lists.indymedia.org; imc-uk-southcoast at lists.indymedia.org; imc-london-moderation at lists.indymedia.org; imc-london at lists.indymedia.org
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:16:45 +0000
Subject: Re: [IMC-UK-Features] [Imc-london-moderation] Feature proposal: Top HLS Investors Dump Shares



> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:21:28 -0500
> From: gdm at fifthhorseman.net
> To: imc-uk-features at lists.indymedia.org
> CC: imc-uk-southcoast at lists.indymedia.org; imc-uk-features at lists.indymedia.org; imc-london-moderation at lists.indymedia.org; imc-london at lists.indymedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Imc-london-moderation] [IMC-UK-Features] Feature proposal: Top HLS Investors Dump Shares
 
> i object to this article.
> 
> reasons:
> 
> as with previous objections that i have raised, i dislike the quality of
> the links and the fact that this is primarily an advertising campaign for
> shac.
 
I have increased the number of links, it now includes a variety of newswire links from UK and London Indymedia, YouTube, three from SHAC, and others. This is not an advertising campaign for shac, this is a news feature. If it was an advert it would of said "join the demos", "smash hls" or something actually promoting SHAC. It's just like any other feature on the Smash EDO's topic page, its covering news in a radical light.
 
> in particular, most of the links that are presently included in the
> draft on we.riseup.net point either to shac or to other websites...
 
This wasn't the case and now is even less the case. The majority of links were and are to UK and London Indymedia, with three links to shac pages, three to win animal rights and two to bite back pages. With over 25+ links, I don't think that they either point to shac or other websites, quite the opposite. This was and is a ludicrous claim.
 
> ...that could be described as representing organisations that are as
> despicable in their motives as shac. 
 
Firsltly: Slashing tyres as an act of sabotage to try and save lives is not despicable, and SHAC will never claim such a fallacy.
 
If you read "Bricks and Bullhorns", by political prisoner Kevin Jonas (SHAC 7 USA), you will realise that there is a SHAC bark and a SHAC bite. The former is the SHAC campaign, the later is the SHAC movement, which includes illegal actions. This is the same as the Smash EDO campaign, there are aboveground and underground actions for its closure.
 
SHAC also continue to show support for the non-violent underground movement, see the newsletters highlighting liberations and solidarity with prisoners. They even released the anonymous ALF video of the rabbit liberation at a HLS supplier early last year, so it isn't true that this doesn't come under the 'wider' banner of SHAC, as part of the movement, rather than the organisation. This is a reason for the SHAC newswire existing, for example.
 
> moreover, one of those links is directly to a webpage that currently
> lists personal information about someone - his address, email, car
> registration number, names of his family members, etc.
 
So what if there is a LINK to someone's personal information? It was ok with the BNP membership list wasn't it? That had a lot more person information than all of Bite Back
put together! Will we be next deleting the links to fascists that have been exposed as well as part of this routine?
 
There's nothing in the guidelines that says you can't link to a website that includes personal information, this is why users have done so in the past. If there were, next we would be deleting articles that mention the names of such websites. Utterly ridiculous.
 
 Indymedia UK's mission statement:
 
"we acknowledge that the struggle for a better world takes many forms. The focus of the Indymedia UK collective is on grassroots politics, actions and campaigns"
 

> solidarity,
> 
> --gdm
> 
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