[IMC-UK-Features] political policing / police state feature & I quitFrom

ana anap at riseup.net
Sat Mar 14 14:49:01 PDT 2009


from mark
> Hi Ben, Hi everyone.
>
> On Friday March 6th I created a filter to hide all posts and comments by
> underclassrising.net because I'd already hidden 2 posts by the same
> author including incitements to murder (see discussion here
> https://we.riseup.net/imc-uk/incitement and here
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-moderation/2009-March/0306-nf.html).
> Since then I've found another instance of the same author posting the
> same comment and hidden that too. I put a note in the back-end message
> board so other moderators could see what I'd done.
>
> That was before Ben wrote this
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-moderation/2009-March/0307-oz.html
>  which provides further arguments for why this user should be banned. I
> agree with Ben's arguments in that post.
>
> Yesterday, Chris switched off the auto-hide on the filter I'd set up. So
> the situation is that we have at least two active contributors to this
> project (Ben and I) who want this user banned, and one person (Chris)
> who disagrees, changes the filter and (according to Ben) blocks
> discussion of it on the list.
>
> It seems that there is a serious problem with the way that power is
> being used here. I'd like to know what Chris and the rest of us think we
> should do about that.
>
> Mark
>
> ben gringo wrote:
> > Below is a starting point for the feature on political policing. I'll
> > not be finishing it as I have decided to quit doing any IMC UK work.
>
>
> > All my emails to the open lists are currently being pre-moderated and at
> > least twice now I've had my emails rejected. One was my response to the
> > proposal to filter posts about SHAC. Fortunately others  spoke up within
> > 24 hour deadline but my opinion was never heard.
>
> > The most recent incident was a post to imc-uk-moderation in which I
> > asked for debate into applying a filter to a know persistent disruptive
> > user from Sheffield. Instead of passing that email through to the list I
> > received an email back from Chris stating "This "debate" isn't going
> > anywhere..., Mozaz isn't going to be banned."
>
> > I'm disgusted that Chris should weld his veto in defense of his
> > acquaintance before the rest of the network even get to discuss the
> > issue. This kind of abuse of power makes me sick and is part of a
> > pattern of abuse I've seen recently which makes me embarrassed to be
> > involved in IMC UK. Over the last few weeks I've heard loads of
> > complaints from users and have found it hard to defend what has been
> > going on. This latest incident is just the last straw and while Chris
> > exerts such a strangle hold over power within national processes I see
> > no point in continuing to waste my time and efforts doing IMC UK related
> > work.
>
> > Ben
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