[imc-uk-moderation] Who promoted this and why?

[Shiar]

On Wed, March 12, 2008 10:48 am, Tony wrote:
> I don't think this needs hiding as it is relevant to indymedia (as
> chris was interviewed) but don't think it should have been promoted.

That's not the only relevance to Indymedia. Both interviewees are active
IMCers and a big chuck of the show is about Indymedia in general and
Indymedia and 9/11 in particular.

> I did listen to the radio show and apart from finding it tedious -
> moaning about how no one understands them - i am very surprised it
> merits promotion.

Me, i am surprised you don't see why it does. Actually i am not surprised.

> I think "Good, original analysis" is pushing it a
> bit - basically they want more 911 truth people to post to indymedias
> and want indymedias to stop hiding the posts... thinking as less gets
> hidden it is because we have all come round to the idea that they
> might have been right all along.

Basically, IMO, this is a misrepresentation. There is a lot of 'good,
original analysis' in the show, both about indymedia and the 9/11 truth
movement. To diss it as just  "moaning" is not really fair.

> I realise that this is your issue Chris, and we have to work with
> that, as we are a network of individuals, but i do think you have to
> see why people are pissed off at the way you are using the site to
> campaign, and even encourage '911 truth people to post in certain
> ways to get round our moderation. I know in your mind i have not read
> enough to understand but i have seen enough to have made my own mind
> up about where i stand. There are other sites for this - of which i
> think you are involved - so why do you need Indymedia to push it.

In the same way the climate activists, No Boorders and other grassroots
groups use Indymedia to 'push their agenda'? Isn't that what Indymedia is
about? Or is it ok for some leftists grassroots groups to do that and not
others? I'm sure there are many people among us who think the Climate
Camp, for example, are 'a bunch of hippies and lifestylists' (i've heard
that many times, and is similarly reductionist and misrepresenting), does
that mean they should object that the CC is using Indy to push their
'liberal' agenda? The same could be said about almost every other topic
and action topic we have.

IMHO, the issue here is that Tony and others don't see where some 9/11
truth activists are coming from and what their broader motivations and
struggles are (anti-imperial, anti-war, anti-state etc. etc.).

Finally, if any other movement or campaign produced a similar show
(talking about indymedia, promoting it and urging its members to
contribute), would we have this same discussion? Please spare a minute to
think why not...

-- 
Shiar