[Imc-uk-network] Re: support for those kicked out of Belgium IMC

[turlututu]

Hi, someone warned me about that discussion, you must to know that is NOT a rumor but a sad reality...
A lot of us are fed up about eternal lies of some members of indy.be, that's why we're writing a text to describe the scary situation in Belgium. We hope this text will help people to understand. If you want already an idea, www.indymedia.be respects only 1 point of the POU... (the 9)

Thanks very much Nick, we see a bit the light in the long and tiring tunnel...

turlututu, from Imc Liege and one of many ex-members of www.indymedia.be.








I must say I am a little shocked by the methods used by some people.

Via via via .... we received this mail by Nick Cooper wich is clearly
part of a campaing against belgium.indymedia.org.
I do not think this is a constructive way to resolve the problems in the
Belgium IMC's.  Not to speak about all the grotesk rumours and
conclusions featuring this mail.

I can understand that people have questions about the situation / the
differences / the functioning / .... of the different belgian IMC's and
that the flood of mails in the imc-process list does not always clarify
things.
That is why I would invite people to send question they have to
different belgian mailing lists, I ame sure you will get answers to your
questions.

Imc-belgium-process at lists.indymedia.org <http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-uk-network> : The process mailing of
belgium.indymedia.org
imc-be at lists.indymedia.org <http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-uk-network> : the mailing list of the syndication
project.

In solidarity

han, liason for belgium.indymedia.org


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Mail by Nick Cooper:
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There have been alot of proposal on imc-process about problems at the 
Belgium IMC.  Apparently, the collective has been taken over by a
Maoist 
group which are ppaid by the Belgium Workers Party and 22 members have
been 
kicked out.  The group in charge has even blocked proposals to re-assign
the 
belgium link on the cities list to a syndication site which includes
links 
to their site as well as others in Belgium.  I wanted to test out how 
repressive the collective is and got a quick idea - an critique of 
revolutionary communism I published was hidden (to read it you have to 
hi-light it because it has been blacked out, but you will see it is not 
exactly a personal attack).
http://www.indymedia.be/news/2004/09/88273.php
Anyway, I think we should consense to support the Belgium-IMC people in 
exile who wish to continue to do IMC work - here is one of their
postings.
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-September/0906-
r5.html
The spokesperson of the communist group (Han) blocks this proposal
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-September/0909-
l3.html
and responds that the conflict should be solved on a local level
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-September/0909-
dl.html
but thiis has been going on for three years now, and I think it is time
for 
us to support the exiled members in having access to the belgium
indymedia 
address they created.
Peace
Nick