[Imc-uk-network] [PROPOSAL] [IMC-York] moving forward...

[ekes]

GarconDuMonde wrote:
> i am also worried about doing something "because it's a trusted IMC UK person" -
> i think that may be a fair enough reason if there is some immediate, tangible
> benefit (for instance, we set up some voip stuff during the g8 last year, or the
> history site that has been set up by yossarian and ionnek), but a trusted friend
> who says that other people are ok.... we're getting a little too detached from
> teh project, i think.
> 
> anyway, just some thoughts - i'm not trying to stop the new york collective
> here, i'm trying to get us to think about our process and how we do stuff, cos
> otherwise we'll end up in similar positions to, say, the westcountry site that
> was never maintained.

I have to admit I am a bit saddened by all this process. I was hoping
someone else from York would have chipped in - but I am not in the
slightest surprised that they haven't.

What I would expect from the United Kollectives is a "Hello! Wow! You
want to make a collective... how can we help". What I don't expect is a
load of "we best be careful here" without any suggestion of how to do
it. That's negative and it's putting process over purpose.

If GDM thinks creating a york.indymedia.org.uk domain is a bad idea
we'll buy yorkindymedia.org.uk (a few quid and one less period) and we
can do it the unsupported new-imc way that you suggested. But I kind of
figured that we had a wealth of experience and support out here in the
United Kollectives and it was daft to do it alone, but better with the
network.

There are good reasons for the new-imc process.
One reason is that it is a guide on how to build a robust collective...
it's why the small group already involved are contacting people to join
in and will be going through the rest of the process. That is also why I
am while taking part in the collective and helping (mainly technically),
I am not doing it. I could set up a website any time that's not the
point, more than me need to build a network.
An other reason for the process is that the network is global and there
isn't necessarily the local support, and checks on a group... so there
needs to be a formal process. Here in the UK we are smaller than that.
There is contact - and if people thought of positive things to do there
is support. Also, the reason I put deadlines for the continuation of the
domain were for a final level of check - the domain couldn't become an
equivalent of westcountry (or even a link to cymru).

All the best, looking forward to help in hopefully building a network
and collective in York (with or without the period).

ekes