[Imc-uk-network] [PROPOSAL] [IMC-York] moving forward...
ekes at riseup.net
Thu Jun 29 07:41:59 PDT 2006
> i am also worried about doing something "because it's a trusted IMC UK person" -
> i think that may be a fair enough reason if there is some immediate, tangible
> benefit (for instance, we set up some voip stuff during the g8 last year, or the
> history site that has been set up by yossarian and ionnek), but a trusted friend
> who says that other people are ok.... we're getting a little too detached from
> teh project, i think.
> anyway, just some thoughts - i'm not trying to stop the new york collective
> here, i'm trying to get us to think about our process and how we do stuff, cos
> otherwise we'll end up in similar positions to, say, the westcountry site that
> was never maintained.
I have to admit I am a bit saddened by all this process. I was hoping
someone else from York would have chipped in - but I am not in the
slightest surprised that they haven't.
What I would expect from the United Kollectives is a "Hello! Wow! You
want to make a collective... how can we help". What I don't expect is a
load of "we best be careful here" without any suggestion of how to do
it. That's negative and it's putting process over purpose.
If GDM thinks creating a york.indymedia.org.uk domain is a bad idea
we'll buy yorkindymedia.org.uk (a few quid and one less period) and we
can do it the unsupported new-imc way that you suggested. But I kind of
figured that we had a wealth of experience and support out here in the
United Kollectives and it was daft to do it alone, but better with the
There are good reasons for the new-imc process.
One reason is that it is a guide on how to build a robust collective...
it's why the small group already involved are contacting people to join
in and will be going through the rest of the process. That is also why I
am while taking part in the collective and helping (mainly technically),
I am not doing it. I could set up a website any time that's not the
point, more than me need to build a network.
An other reason for the process is that the network is global and there
isn't necessarily the local support, and checks on a group... so there
needs to be a formal process. Here in the UK we are smaller than that.
There is contact - and if people thought of positive things to do there
is support. Also, the reason I put deadlines for the continuation of the
domain were for a final level of check - the domain couldn't become an
equivalent of westcountry (or even a link to cymru).
All the best, looking forward to help in hopefully building a network
and collective in York (with or without the period).
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