[Imc-uk-network] Global lists - UK delegates/active -Indycymru

[Ilyan]

Let us get this right.

Indycymru, a then existing site, at last having enough active Editors 
sent an application to new-imc  in March.

Shortly after the application, the tech man reports that the software 
was sabotaged and totally scrambled.  Indycymru became non functional.   
Waiting for a reply to the application before spending or raising any 
money on a new site.  

Not being keen on  going into being hosted on Jim Killock's  personal 
business site was more to protect him from any fall out from hostile 
action than to be sure of an independent site not being under the 
control of the Green Party.     

Ana started contributing to the imc-cymru list that had been set up to 
facilitate Indycymru's application.       She wrote that there was a new 
way to apply to new-imc,  and  the form she directed  to was filled in 
with the existing application..   A copy of the completed form was 
taken, which returned  an empty form to the screen, and had only taken a 
copy of the form, not the filled in details.    Form refilled and 
clicked to send off.   Screen cleared but there was no acknowledgment 
that it had been received.  

A copy was made, and sent to the email address that came with the form 
Ana had directed to, with a warning of a possible glitch.     And a copy 
sent to Ana.  

But something else was happening, there were lots of new joiners to the 
imc-cymru list.   They were all sent a copy of the application, until 
there were so many new, a question was included asking why they had not 
applied when Indycymru was so desperately in need of Editors and now 
there was a flood.    

No one objected to the application.   There were people who wanted to be 
part of United Kollectives, and that possibility was accepted  by 
Indycymru people so long as they did not use the Indycymru name.    
Indeed, that separate list idea had been proposed with no objection 
before the sabotage.

Instead of making a new list, or putting in a UK application. people 
started making lies.    Only after substantial damage from that is a new 
list made. 

If Indymedia  does not want a member site that will take on all comers 
so long as they register, then the application will be rejected.   
Portugal showed that it could not be done without Registration.  They 
had to merge with Galicia to keep going.    Requiring registration was 
done by New York, so there is a precedent for that.  I am thinking that 
a serious discussion site should go further, and require proper names 
and addresses in the registration.  

A copy of the indycymru application is the second half of  
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-cymru/2006-September/0916-4z.html

Ilyan


ana wrote:
> I am currently on the imc-cymru list trying to steer the process of
> creating a site; if they choose going with imc uk, helping as a current
> uk person liaising, if they choose going with imc global, helping with
> the new-imc process. I sense it is more likely that they will choose to
> go with imc uk.
>
> ana
>
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