[Imc-uk-network] ESRC funded research project on Indymedia UK]

[maqui]

Hello .. I've kept quiet about this because others have expressed what 
i think in a more diplomatic way than what i would probably do, so I 
won't say more than:

On Saturday, January 20, 2007, at 06:39  pm, mish wrote:

[...]

> Assuming this account is true, I find it hard to believe that the 
> people
> in question truly believed that indymedia was informed because they
> themselves were informed.  On that basis I would never forward emails
> from national lists to my local collective, because I knew it so
> therefore my collective knew it!  The premise seems absurd - more of a
> self justification for not doing something they don't want to do for
> some other reason.

Indeed! This sort of justification doesn't go much further than just 
being a badly thought excuse, which in fact, it almost feels like a 
piss take. As Tony said in some other mail, at best it shows a 
completely misunderstanding of what Indymedia is, how it operates and 
what it means in a political sense. At worst it indicates a total 
disrespect for the project and for the work people do and have been 
doing for years .. which in fact, it surprises me taking into account 
that i personally know some of the people involved in that research 
thing, and I am aware of the good work they have also contributed to 
indy.

I am personally not very interested in hearing much more about this 
subject. As far as I am concerned the 'harm has been done', and some 
extra communication with indy at this point in time trying to smooth a 
way out, when the funded research is about to end, doesn't come any 
closer to solve the fundamental problem .. which is that had not any of 
us brought this up, it seems nothing would have been communicated, 
presented or explained to the network, and this is a *big* problem imo.

Anyhow, without wanting to have summary trials here, and with all due 
respect to the work some ESRC folk do and have been doing for years, I 
can only say that i feel Indy has been taken for a ride with this one, 
and that I feel quite disappointed about this.

maqui