[Imc-uk-network] [Imc-uk-process] New aggregated UK Site
Genny
vg at genny.force9.co.uk
Sat Oct 17 00:34:17 PDT 2009
JimDog wrote: "the indy uk site needs to be taken away from the exclusive control of the
mir admins and belong to everyone and noone as is the anarchist way of
doing things."
ftp wrote: "There are 50 currently log-ins on IMC-uk, and no-one is preventing any of
them from logging in and moderating the site.
"There would be more, but your collective decided to delete your own
log-ins, and those of others who weren't consulted beforehand. And you are
constantly calling for more to be excluded."
Hi JimDog
Reading comments your comments about the anarchist way of doing things, I'm a bit perturbed.
There might well be arguments for changing from mir to drupal or another system - some of them have been discussed in detail at previous uk network meetings (attended by collectives from the uk site as well as from other local sites using other systems).
However, there is a collective process in indy for discussing, deciding and making such changes. Comments like 'the indy uk site needs to be taken away from the exclusive control of the mir admins' is not remotely helpful. As far as I'm aware, mir is an open system and the words 'exclusive control' aren't really accurate, are they? Making unfounded allegations and then recommending hostile action against the alleged perpetrators smacks more of Bush and Blair to me than the anarchist way.
Unilaterally deleting other people's log-ins doesn't seem like the anarchist way either. I seem to recall some people were very upset about the way this was done.
We are all part of the indymedia network and as such we have lots in common with each other. Rather than these constant attacks on the uk site, why don't you concentrate on making the northern site a shining example of indymedia excellence which all will want to emulate? And if they don't, well I think there's something in the global indy principles about respecting the autonomy of other collectives to make their own decisions.
Global solidarity too, eh?
Best wishes
Genny
freethepeeps at riseup.net wrote:
> JimDog wrote:
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> "the indy uk site needs to be taken away from the exclusive control of the
> mir admins and belong to everyone and noone as is the anarchist way of
> doing things."
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> There are 50 currently log-ins on IMC-uk, and no-one is preventing any of
> them from logging in and moderating the site.
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> There would be more, but your collective decided to delete your own
> log-ins, and those of others who weren't consulted beforehand. And you are
> constantly calling for more to be excluded.
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> So, what are you basing this claim on?
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> And where is your answer to phunkee's question?
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