[Imc-uk-network] Northern RSS and Jimdogs FUD, was: Re: FW: Open process

[anargeek]

Hi

On Tue 27-Apr-2010 at 06:06:33AM -0700,
freethepeeps at riseup.net wrote:
> 
> jimdog wrote:
> 
> > From the northern collective meeting on sunday, it's
> > pretty clear we're not happy with this solution and we
> > don't really want any of our full articles viewable
> > with mir rather than our own site.
> 
> My understanding remains that there is a process whereby
> proposals will be made in regards to RSS feeds and the
> front page. This request seems to be outside of that
> process.

Should the Northern England RSS feeds be added back then?

I personally really don't care either way at this stage,
and I'm not sure it matters all that much in practice
either way either -- in the last week there have been 3
articles on the Northern site which would have been pulled
in:

- Newcastle Unites! - Successful anti-racist event  
  https://www.northern-indymedia.org/articles/661

- Week of Action Against University Vivisection  
  https://www.northern-indymedia.org/articles/659

- Greyhound death demo greets Dara  
  https://www.northern-indymedia.org/articles/658

All three were also published on the UK site, so the RSS
pulled versions would have been hidden as reposts:

- Newcastle unites! Ant-racist event  
  https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/04/449687.html

- Week of Action Against University Vivisection
  https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/04/449278.html  

- Greyhound death demo greets Dara  
  https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/04/449445.html

Many the users of the sites appear to be happy with
content to appear on both sites and are simply posting to
both -- they are working around the fact that there are
multiple sites with multiple publishing forms.

Also Jimdog still has access to edit the templates and the
file that lists the RSS feeds to be pulled:

- http://codecoop.org/projects/imc-uk

However has has asked for his development version of the
Mir site to be deleted:

- http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-tech/2010-April/0425-qd.html

Jimdog -- are you part of IMC UK or not, it's really hard
to follow...

Walking out and then attacking us for you not having
access for things is rather strange behaviour.

I really wish the personal attacks and FUD would stop.
It's getting really tedious. This is an example from a few
days ago:

  This has been implemented without any prior discussion
  or consensus within the network and by doing so may have
  endangered the leeds bradford archives by tinkering with
  the live site.

  http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-northern/2010-April/0424-mu.html

To claim that there hasn't been discussion or consensus is
absurd, the notes from the last meeting:
 
  Syndicated UK Front-page¶

  For several years now, it has been generally agreed that
  a syndicated front-page which can include RSS feeds from
  all imc-uk collectives would be desirable. This is the
  fourth meeting in a row which has expressed such a
  desire. The meeting came away with a commitment to a
  working group which could try and get such a system
  running, on whatever platform can do the job. Chris was
  of the opinion that Mir could work but only one person,
  who is not based in the UK, can add the necessary code.
  Mick and Ekes are working on a Drupal-based solution.

  The basic idea was that as a first step, people working
  on the syndication site should just copy the existing
  imc-uk design to whatever extent they can, so that the
  page looks mostly like it does now but with features and
  newswire items from imc-bristol, imc-london,
  imc-northern, and imc-scotland inserted into it.

  https://we.riseup.net/imc-uk/imc-uk-network-meeting-17-april-2010-minutes#syndicated-uk-front-page

And:

  Syndicated UK front page 

  Chris offers to create the template if other techs can
  agree to code producers.xml. 

  https://docs.indymedia.org/Local/UkNetworkMeeting2010BristolNotes#Syndicated_UK_front_page

To claim that I "may have endangered the leeds bradford
archives", is pure FUD -- how exactly did I do that?

All the best

Chris

PS I haven't been convinced of the case to delete or move these
   pages:

   - https://docs.indymedia.org/Local/UkChrisCImcNorthern
   - https://docs.indymedia.org/Local/ImcUkDisinfo