[Imc-uk-process] [Imc-uk-network] New Crabgrass UK Network
theinnercityhippy at riseup.net
Thu Jul 30 09:54:38 PDT 2009
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Oh crikey, looks like I've done it again. This was meant to be something
positive as a fun idea, not some guiled attack or anything mysterious.
> As ftp stated, I too am not quite sure what 'power over membership'
> means, so I imagine other members of the IMC UK Network would also
> like some clarification on this too, as inclusivity is important.
A decentralised approach would in my opinion be the individual groups
who make up the network deciding on membership of their local groups,
which then feeds up to them automatically becoming members of the uk and
global networks, meaning control is devolved down to the lowest possible
denomination - the individual making contact with their local group. The
current setup is unclear and is at the whim of someone already within
the network deciding to accept a new member. This is a heirarchy. Also,
the current UK group includes noone from bristol or scotland as far as I
am aware. A network is not a group for writing/collborating together,
merely for communicating and notifying.
> Also, can you clarify what attributes this has which excludes it
> from the normal/usual process of consensus decision making? Surely
> if someone's actions could affect other people they are worth at
> least discussing beforehand?
Me setting up the group affected noone else. Anyones decision to join
the network is up to them. Just because it's there doesn't mean anyone
actually has to use it. Delete it if you want to, I'm not really that
bothered about it enough to cause yet another load of pointless grief.
It was just me experimenting with how to set a network up on something
that some groups use to write documents together. It's hardly a key
piece of the UK Indysphere.
> No one is arguing or saying this shouldn't happen, people just want
> to know what it is so they can see if they agree with it in totally
> or not.
It's just a group of people who use Crabgrass as part of their local IMC
process saying "look, we're a united network" and having a single page
they can look at and see what other uk sites are up to and get excited
about all the amazing and crazy projects going on elsewhere. As far as
any other benefits, there aren't any, nor are there any drawbacks as far
as I can see. It's just what it is, a button that say's we're part of a
united network which is something we were criticised recently for not
paying attention to. Can't imagine, judging by all this why that might
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