[Imc-uk-process] Indymedia is not a label
theinnercityhippy at riseup.net
Sat Apr 30 04:12:26 PDT 2011
Being an affiliated imc is not just about a domain name. And with all respect to mara, I wouldn't have gone along with simply requesting one. This is consistent - when imc linksunten requested one last year for their blog service I objected. This wasn't down to any malice or bad intent, I have a lot of respect for them as a collective. I did and still believe however that an indymedia.org subdomain has to be earned by going through the new imc process and that no precedent should be set, even for already affiliated imc's, to circumvent this.
When you effectively blocked our application at the 11th hour, we got on with working with our liaison and sought advice from others. Many of the people who were initially very hostile towards us such as ana were able to see that we were working hard to learn a lesson from the experience and to resolve the situation. As a result a very good relationship now exists based on respect and having worked together.
The ability to pass through new imc is down to your group alone. What I would recommend would be that calmly answering any questions put to you in an objective manner, rather than calling those asking questions of you names on openly archived lists would be the best way forward.
If you are having trouble seeing why you are getting little support outside of your own collectives, perhaps a deep breath and some reflection is needed. With the current hostilities likely to continue ad infinitum but on a global level, how many collectives around the world do you think want to welcome you with open arms? Everyone just wants the whole thing to calm down, and for people to either work together or simply ignore one another. Personally, I want the latter as time has shown that for me personally, it is not possible to work with you. Im sorry if you find that hard to take.
Anyway, the long and short of it is that the site needs to fork tomorrow so we can all go our separate ways. This whole email exchange is neither helpful nor fun for anyone. You'll be left to get on with your new imc application, and we will all continue to stay out of it. That puts the ball firmly in your court and the whole process will be yours to succeed with or not.
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From: "anargeek" <chris at anargeek.net>
Date: Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:48
Subject: [Imc-uk-process] Indymedia is not a label
To: <imc-uk-process at lists.indymedia.org>
On Sat 30-Apr-2011 at 10:24:26AM +0100, Sy wrote:
> it's really quite hard to believe... that the issue is an
> indymedia.org subdomain.
You can test if this is true or not.
On Fri 29-Apr-2011 at 09:43:05PM +0100, mara wrote:
> We could probably just have requested an Indymedia domain, for a
> project run by four affiliated Indymedias, and gotten it, thinking
> about it now.
So if 4 IMC's can get a sub-domain just by asking could 6 (including
Scotland and UK) get a sub-domain for Mayday just by asking?
Wouldn't it have been easier to have asked for 2 sub-domains,
a.indymedia.org. and b.indymedia.org back in December -- then we
woudn't be in the mess.
Or perhaps the fears Mayday Indymedia has they you are trying to expell
us from Indymedia are true?
If you want us to not be on indymedia.org.uk then you need to help us
get mayday.indymedia.org -- at this stage it seems this simple.
All the best
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