[Imc-uk-useability] new comments display

[ionnek]

Hi,
special thanks to those who pushed, made and implemented the new 
comments display. I was sceptical about wether it would make a 
difference (now I can admit it), but now, having seen and tried it, I 
see that you were right ;-)

Thanks to Maria for picking up the automatic features list notification 
idea, that would make hiding (and promoting) a lot faster.

In terms of promoting comments: Probably, our "guidelines" for that will 
emerge while we are doing it. For that reason, I think it would be 
useful to post notification and reason to the features list. At least in 
"interesting" or debatable cases. Not because I distrust anyone, only 
because this helps to see the structure, the boundaries, of our 
collective decisions. And to formulate them at some point. Which is 
useful since I expect that we'll get quite a few complaints.

best
ionnek


Maria Ng (News From Nowhere Bookshop) wrote:

> V much like new comments display!   (btw Should we notify 
> imc-uk-features if promoting a comment & give reasons?Opposite of 
> hiding things!)
>  
> A thought on 328181 'Site update to display of comments' and its 
> comments.  A couple of commenters wanted to see reasons for why 
> particular things are hidden, and I'm inclined to agree with them.
>  
> Had a couple of ideas. I have NO idea of the doability of these ideas:
>  
> Suggestion:
> Build into the process of hiding a comment/feature a new field for 
> person doing the hiding to enter reasons for hiding. The text in this 
> field would then appear in the actual feature page - in a 'Why was 
> this article hidden?' box (which should also include a link to the 
> Editorial Guidelines).  Just the same sort of terse message as gets 
> posted to imc-uk-features - no need to be more elaborate.  (There 
> should probably also be a field for name of admin person who did the 
> hiding, but this should not appear on the public site). 
>  
> Related time-saving suggestion:
> Automate the process of notifying imc-uk-features of hiddens.  When 
> something is hidden, have the server generate an email to 
> imc-uk-features which would include: article title & ref, reason for 
> hiding (entered as in above suggestion), name of person who did 
> hiding. Possibly also list regions/topics to which the article is 
> currently attached.  Also url of the article in question, to make it 
> easy to go and look at it.  (Similarly for hiding comments - comment 
> ref & title plus also article ref, title,url etc)
>  
> (Or could just be a mailto: link addressed to imc-uk-features which 
> opens up a message window with above info already in body of message, 
> so admin person just has to send it.  )
>  
> Why?
> Transparency.  Reasonable for ordinary readers to feel a bit antsy 
> about articles/comments being hidden, (not just original authors of 
> hidden things) - i.e. Indymedia supposed to be 
> open/diy/non-hierarchical news publishing, yet unseen people hide 
> things and don't say why on the site itself. 
>  
> (While features list archive is public, there doesn't seem to be any 
> search facility, so very very time-consuming for someone to actually 
> go in there and find out why a particular article was hidden.  Even if 
> there was a search facility, many readers might not realise that 
> they'd have to search by the article reference number, or even 
> recognise where to find it in the url)
>  
> Also, would probably be educational for readers/contributors to see 
> editorial guidelines in practice.  (I bet lots of  people never 
> ever look at the editorial guidelines before posting).  E.g. people 
> who repost corporate news, or post non-news - they might then think 
> 'uh? those indymedia people say my article is non-news???!!' and might 
> have a think and work out why.
>  
> Maria (imc liverpool)
>
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