[Imc-uk-video] RE: Mime types.

[Ben]

To play those Dvix files under Quicktime on a Mac runing OSX you'd need 
the Divx Decoder component in your ~/Library/Quicktime/ folder

(I can send it to whoever needs it and links from a video help page on 
indy uk would be good if we get a special info box generated in 
articles containing video)

I choose to create avi from the Mac (there is a save as AVI component 
for quicktime too) because the native mp4 files I've previously been 
producing seem to cause windows people problems. I thought anyone who 
watches movies would be able to handle dvix avi files as most pirate 
movies on p2p are in these formats.

I believe that VLC or Mplayer will both play divx avi files without 
problem (no need to use windows media player for anything on a mac 
apart from attempts to play WMV3).

Which brings me to a final point. WMV3 is the worst type of proprietary 
codec. It is fine for 90% of computer users running windows but almost 
impossible to play on any other os because microsoft will not allow the 
codec to be reverse engineered).

We really need to sit down and suss out what advise to give people 
encoding for indymedia users. If we as video makers have trouble 
watching each others films then what hope for the 'punters'.

ben


On Jan 25, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Doug wrote:

> Thanks for  adding the m4v. Actually ithe iPod frame rate is 30fps and 
> the
> quality fairly good on a computer. My 3min video was 18Mb. By changing 
> the
> suffix to mp4 it could be sent to Indy but will then not open 
> automatically
> in iTunes, from where it downloads to the iPod. Now it should be OK in 
> future
> if Indy acccepts m4v.
>
> I added a comment on Indy about the Parliament Square video. Good 
> stuff!
> I finally managed to play it as follows. Right click to save to 
> desktop,
> right click on file to open with Windows Media player, but when it 
> played
> it was a bit wide-screen stretched though. Quicktime definitely didn't 
> like
> it from left double-click and froze.
>
> Doug.
>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>   1. mime types added and additional thoughts on mobile	video
>>      formats (Ben)
>>   2. File names for uploaded media (Ben)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:07:58 +0000
>> From: Ben <ben at riseup.net>
>> Subject: [Imc-uk-video] mime types added and additional thoughts on
>> 	mobile	video formats
>> To: imc-video at lists.indymedia.org,	imc-uk-video at lists.indymedia.org
>> 	(uk indymedia video subgroup list)
>> Message-ID: <18b39fb051ed2702d7bcda49a5477b19 at riseup.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> I have now added the following mime types to imc-uk so that videos in
>> these formats should now upload...
>>
>> .m4v
>> .3gp (and .3g2)
>> .h263
>>
>> While doing it and thinking about the idea of having indy 
>> automatically
>
>> transcode every incoming video I also considered the fact that these
>> formats intended for mobile phones etc are also ideal to provide modem
>> users with quick previews of videos. Both .m4v and .3gpp are
>> implimentations of mp4 just using a standard reduced fps and frame 
>> size
>
>> etc. I think they should play on any computer that can play mp4
>>
>> In other words, providing auto transcoding of videos wouldn't just be 
>> a
>
>> way of trying to reach new audiences via mobile video devices but 
>> could
>
>> also provide users with a quick to download preview version of all
>> videos. I think this would be especially handy on video.indymedia 
>> since
>
>> uploaders are encouraged to provide screening quality only and it is a
>> pain in the arse to download a 150MB files only to discover it is not
>> what you needed.
>>
>> What do people think?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:01:23 +0000
>> From: Ben <ben at riseup.net>
>> Subject: [Imc-uk-video] File names for uploaded media
>> To: imc-uk-tech at lists.indymedia.org,	uk indymedia video subgroup list
>> 	<imc-uk-video at lists.indymedia.org>
>> Message-ID: <f072fa8544e21a3000c4c86c45b48d7c at riseup.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> Forgot to mention this earlier but another thing raised during the
>> video gathering was the awful numbered file names for media uploads on
>> imc uk. (not just video but audio and photos as well obviously).
>>
>> It was suggested that it would be nice if the user inputed name could
>> be incorporated into the file name so that when download it was easy 
>> to
>
>> see what it was rather than having loads of files like 3453455.avi all
>> over the place.
>>
>> Ideally it would be something like 220106_demodemo.avi ie.
>> incorporating the date of upload as well as the name
>>
>> I guess that MIR uses numbers for media uploads just like it uses
>> articles numbers and so it would be difficult if not impossible to 
>> make
>
>> the filenames utilise the users title.  however, maybe there is a way.
>> Perhaps a download script of some sort (rather than right click
>> downloads) would enable the correct title to be automatically
>> substituted for download.
>>
>> ben
>
>
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