[IMC-Video] live streaming
and
and at axxs.org
Thu Aug 17 17:03:57 PDT 2006
A couple of good resource guides for streaming are
http://www.streamingsuitcase.com/frame.html
and
http://www.flossmanuals.net/VLC/Introduction
Have also cc'd here Adam who wrote them as he might be able to direct
you to further info.
cheers.
And.
On 17/08/2006, at 5:33 AM, lotu5 wrote:
> Sasha,
>
> you mentioned vlan and someone else suggested that to me at our
> hacklab
> last night also.
>
> We'll be getting together here sunday also in san diego or tijuana to
> work on setting up a working system to stream future events for La
> Otra
> Campana of the Zapatistas.
>
> take care,
>
> lotu5
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 22:24 +0700, Sasha Costanza-Chock wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'll be coming back to LA from Vietnam this Sunday (the 20th). I'm
>> definitely interested in working on this, figuring out the
>> hardware and
>> software configuration we need, and publicizing the stream. We don't
>> have too much time though. The first thing, to make the live stream
>> possible, obviously we need broadband internet access from the
>> location
>> we want to send the signal from. Does anyone know if that is
>> possible?
>> Where will the korean struggle delegation protest? because if it's in
>> the streets of LA we need to do some quick work to get access,
>> specifically, there is a guy who has a satellite internet
>> connection in
>> a van, he brought it to the May 1st mobilizations but I have never
>> met
>> him face to face. Does anyone know who I'm talking about? We will
>> need
>> something like that if there is a march.
>>
>> Otherwise, we will have to just shoot video and upload quickly :)
>>
>> peace
>> sasha
>>
>>
>> jo, dongwon wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> this is dongwon from seoul, s.korea. i'm a volunteer in Media
>>> Culture
>>> Action against neo-liberal globalization and FTA in particular
>>> recently(http://gomediaction.net/).
>>>
>>> i'm very interested in seeing there are discussions on live
>>> streaming
>>> here and there at the same time,
>>> so that i strongly feel it's about time our experiences for live
>>> streaming should be updated especially because we here have just
>>> used
>>> window media server + window media encoder + window media player.
>>> (only
>>> one platform! that's too bad!).
>>> At the site for live coverage, we often use a switcher connected
>>> with 3
>>> cameras, and a window for streaming(user's interface) has not only a
>>> player, but a list of last streamings(VOD), live comment etc.
>>> (you can
>>> see it by clicking the "video on air" at the right-middle corner of
>>> http://gomediaction.net <http://gomediaction.net/>).
>>> recently, we have done dual mode of streaming window from two
>>> venues, to
>>> show each other in different two venues, for example there were
>>> simultaneous candle light protests in Daechuri(where people's
>>> struggles
>>> have been against the expansion of US Forces camp) and in
>>> Gwanghwamoon(seoul) where supporters gathered.
>>> now we are trying to build up multi-channel streaming window. but it
>>> takes a while.
>>> me personally, i'm a kind of new user for this(nodongnet
>>> [labornet] has
>>> done it a lot), but i'm very enthusiastic over its potential for
>>> social
>>> movement. (since last year, i have worked with media techies from
>>> nodongnet to develop it.)
>>> As for the configuration we here experiment with for live streaming,
>>> it's nothing much to share, but it's under re-construction, i wish.
>>> so i really hope that we can collaborate internationally at some
>>> moments. How about this?:
>>>
>>> there will be about 100 korean struggles delegation to the U.S.
>>> (LA and
>>> mainly Seattle) to protest against 3rd round talk of korea-US FTA
>>> (Free
>>> trade Agreement) in 3rd - 9th of Sepmtember. I don't think media
>>> activist(s) can go together, especially who can deal with streaming
>>> stuffs. it's still under discussion to see if some of us could go...
>>> (but money and visa problems!)
>>> so i really wish that media activists in seoul and you indymedia
>>> activists in Seattle(, LA) could cover korean delegation's protests,
>>> workshops, performances etc. together.
>>> And what i'd like to suggest is to do some live streaming between
>>> Seattle(or LA) and Seoul at some particular events.
>>> I think this kind of practices is the best way to advance further.
>>>
>>> how do you think? i hope that we can make it!
>>>
>>> thank you.
>>> best, dongwon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lotu5 wrote:
>>>> http://actlab.tv is a good p2p system that uses bittorrent for live
>>>> video streaming, but last time I checked the onl had a windows
>>>> client
>>>> for viewing. i met some folks working on it over the summer and
>>>> they're
>>>> really nice and from the language on the site they sound like
>>>> they're
>>>> interested in working with groups like indymedia.
>>>>
>>>> maybe we should prod them for some more platforms for their
>>>> client...
>>>>
>>>> oggfwd seems like another linux based streaming video transcoder
>>>> that is
>>>> easy to use... there's a good tutorial here
>>>>
>>>> http://www.streamingsuitcase.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 13:51 +0700, Sasha Costanza-Chock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, regarding the conversation about live streaming:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a recent event to live stream from Beirut, check out
>>>>> http://beirut.streamtime.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Dongwon, could you share with imc-video list the configuration you
>>>>> experiment with for live streaming?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dee Dee, what tech configuration have you used for live streams of
>>>>> demos? Was it always satellite or have you done it over web also?
>>>>>
>>>>> For tools, it seems like videolan is well developed.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is also:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dynebolic: http://dynebolic.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Icecast: http://www.icecast.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, in order to not have to pay for huge amounts of
>>>>> bandwidth, the
>>>>> only option will ultimately be to move to peer to peer
>>>>> streaming. I
>>>>> don't know what tools are best for this but I do know that it
>>>>> is already
>>>>> fully functional (thousands of people in China are watching
>>>>> pirated TV
>>>>> signals via P2P streaming).
>>>>>
>>>>> peace
>>>>> schock
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> imc-video-request at lists.indymedia.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Send imc-video mailing list submissions to
>>>>>> imc-video at lists.indymedia.org
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Re: [sdhacklab] la indymedia needs video help with live
>>>>>> video
>>>>>> streaming (Echograph)
>>>>>> 2. Re: [sdhacklab] la indymedia needs video help with live
>>>>>> video
>>>>>> streaming (Echograph)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>> Re: [IMC-Video] [sdhacklab] la indymedia needs video help with
>>>>>> live
>>>>>> video streaming
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> Echograph <echograph at echograph.com>
>>>>>> Date:
>>>>>> Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:16:08 -0700
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> lotus at indymedia.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> lotus at indymedia.org
>>>>>> CC:
>>>>>> sdhacklab at lists.riseup.net, Rachel MacCratic
>>>>>> <ms.rachelness at gmail.com>,
>>>>>> imc-video at lists.indymedia.org, john duda <john at manifestor.org>,
>>>>>> imc-tech at lists.indymedia.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can have a MAC G4 power book and a PC laptop. For the MAC
>>>>>> we have the
>>>>>> iSight camera.
>>>>>> For the PC we would need to buy a camera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 11, 2006, at 12:14 AM, lotu5 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds awesome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you reply to the questions below? What kind of laptop
>>>>>>> will you be
>>>>>>> using? What kind of camera would you like to use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lotu5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 12:26 -0700, Echograph wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello form James at LA-IMC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Basically this is what we are trying to do:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We want to stream video on the IMC site live from the
>>>>>>>> street. We
>>>>>>>> believe this is possible without having a satellite and all
>>>>>>>> the stuff
>>>>>>>> TV news crews have. Our idea is to use a webcam into a
>>>>>>>> laptop and WIFI
>>>>>>>> leach to our server and then stream live out to the world.
>>>>>>>> We think we
>>>>>>>> have the equipment to do this but we need to find out what
>>>>>>>> to set up
>>>>>>>> software wise on our server. We think any IMC should be able
>>>>>>>> to do this
>>>>>>>> at very low cost. So we are asking around for technical
>>>>>>>> advice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We think this would take IMC to a whole new level and
>>>>>>>> provide valuable
>>>>>>>> up to the minute news from the street. IMC has people in the
>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>> where news breaks at protests and the corporate media is
>>>>>>>> either not
>>>>>>>> there or spins the story wrong. We think inexpensive
>>>>>>>> technology exists
>>>>>>>> that would allow us to go live and scoop them all.
>>>>>>>> Sometimes people
>>>>>>>> chant "the whole world is watching" but sadly I don't think
>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>> always true, (yet). We want to show the world what's really
>>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>>> in the streets and nothing conveys that like live video.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 11, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Rachel MacCratic
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello, SDIMC is also working on a simulcast, too, one that's
>>>>>>>>> reaching across the border; so far I've been introduced to
>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>> www.videolan.org It'll run on windows, OS X, or Linux, of
>>>>>>>>> course. One
>>>>>>>>> machine functions as a server while a multiplicity of
>>>>>>>>> clients watch
>>>>>>>>> from other spots. I haven't actually done this, yet, but the
>>>>>>>>> preceding is my conceptual understanding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/10/06, lotu5 at resist.ca <lotu5 at resist.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi. What platform are you using? Mac/pc? Windows/linux/macos?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In linux you can try using freej:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://freej.dyne.org/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you have a pc handy, you should be able to use a live cd
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> dynebolic
>>>>>>>>> or ubuntu and run freej from there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> reply to me with more inf and i'll try to help...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lotu5
>>>>>>>>> http://sdhacklab.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded message from Echograph
>>>>>>>>>> <echograph at echograph.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Echograph <echograph at echograph.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: Editorial Working Group for IMC-US
>>>>>>>>>> <imc-us-editorial at lists.indymedia.org >
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Imc-us-editorial] Take Back The South
>>>>>>>>>> Central Farm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are many who think its over and I think the enemy
>>>>>>>>>> wants people
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> think that. But the fight is still on I can tell you. And
>>>>>>>>>> if the
>>>>>>>>>> bulldozers come back there will be more resistance, more
>>>>>>>>>> arrests and
>>>>>>>>>> more outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Before the raid we were working on how to stream live
>>>>>>>>>> video via
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> webcam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from the farm, but did not figure it out in time. We
>>>>>>>>>> still want to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> able to do this. Do you know any one that can help us
>>>>>>>>>> with this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> gaim: djlotu5 // off the record messaging preferred
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my blog: http://feeds.feedburner.com/lotu5
>>>>>>> my podcast: http://feeds.feedburner.com/radioantifascista
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>> Re: [IMC-Video] [sdhacklab] la indymedia needs video help with
>>>>>> live
>>>>>> video streaming
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> Echograph <echograph at echograph.com>
>>>>>> Date:
>>>>>> Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:26:41 -0700
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> "Rachel MacCratic" <ms.rachelness at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> "Rachel MacCratic" <ms.rachelness at gmail.com>
>>>>>> CC:
>>>>>> sdhacklab at lists.riseup.net, imc-video at lists.indymedia.org,
>>>>>> john duda
>>>>>> <john at manifestor.org>, imc-tech at lists.indymedia.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello form James at LA-IMC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically this is what we are trying to do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We want to stream video on the IMC site live from the street.
>>>>>> We believe
>>>>>> this is possible without having a satellite and all the stuff
>>>>>> TV news
>>>>>> crews have. Our idea is to use a webcam into a laptop and WIFI
>>>>>> leach to
>>>>>> our server and then stream live out to the world. We think we
>>>>>> have the
>>>>>> equipment to do this but we need to find out what to set up
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> wise on our server. We think any IMC should be able to do this
>>>>>> at very
>>>>>> low cost. So we are asking around for technical advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We think this would take IMC to a whole new level and provide
>>>>>> valuable
>>>>>> up to the minute news from the street. IMC has people in the
>>>>>> field where
>>>>>> news breaks at protests and the corporate media is either not
>>>>>> there or
>>>>>> spins the story wrong. We think inexpensive technology exists
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> would allow us to go live and scoop them all. Sometimes
>>>>>> people chant
>>>>>> "the whole world is watching" but sadly I don't think that's
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> true, (yet). We want to show the world what's really happening
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> streets and nothing conveys that like live video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 11, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Rachel MacCratic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello, SDIMC is also working on a simulcast, too, one that's
>>>>>>> reaching across the border; so far I've been introduced to this:
>>>>>>> www.videolan.org It'll run on windows, OS X, or Linux, of
>>>>>>> course. One
>>>>>>> machine functions as a server while a multiplicity of clients
>>>>>>> watch
>>>>>>> from other spots. I haven't actually done this, yet, but the
>>>>>>> preceding is my conceptual understanding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/10/06, lotu5 at resist.ca <lotu5 at resist.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi. What platform are you using? Mac/pc? Windows/linux/macos?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In linux you can try using freej:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://freej.dyne.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if you have a pc handy, you should be able to use a live cd like
>>>>>>> dynebolic
>>>>>>> or ubuntu and run freej from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reply to me with more inf and i'll try to help...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lotu5
>>>>>>> http://sdhacklab.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded message from Echograph
>>>>>>>> <echograph at echograph.com> -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Echograph <echograph at echograph.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Editorial Working Group for IMC-US
>>>>>>>> <imc-us-editorial at lists.indymedia.org >
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Imc-us-editorial] Take Back The South Central
>>>>>>>> Farm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are many who think its over and I think the enemy
>>>>>>>> wants people to
>>>>>>>> think that. But the fight is still on I can tell you. And if
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> bulldozers come back there will be more resistance, more
>>>>>>>> arrests and
>>>>>>>> more outrage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before the raid we were working on how to stream live video
>>>>>>>> via webcam
>>>>>>>> from the farm, but did not figure it out in time. We still
>>>>>>>> want to be
>>>>>>>> able to do this. Do you know any one that can help us with
>>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>
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