[IMC-Video] towards a new cms for video.indymedia.org

[lotu5]

I agree that we should really look for a new cms. Maybe it should be
part of the larger cms discussion that has been happening at the tech
gatherings, but clearly video.indy has different needs and should be a
different animal than other indy cms's. 

I'm familiar with drupal, so i have an itch to setup a drupal video site
like the one described in the recipe, but thats kind of knee jerk.
Broadcast machine does have a lot of support from lots of developers,
which is very, very important the for health of a long term project. 

I know part of why we used our own cms was so that folks could upload
via ftp and we could share disk space with archive.org. That's for
hosting of huge files. It seems to me that most people don't need ftp,
only the very large files do, so we can do what archive.org does and
direct people to use their ftp client for that. No?

Okay, I'm seriously fucking interested in this. And, I just left my job
to start grad school in two weeks where I will hopefully be focusing on
ways to integrate participatory, collective video projects with
technology, so I think I'll have time to work on this, but I'm not 100%
sure yet. 

  lotu5

On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 08:42 -0700, Sasha Costanza-Chock wrote:
> I agree entirely that video.indy is at this point only minimally 
> functional, and is basically getting its ass kicked by corpo video sites 
> (obviously, especially YouTube). Christ, we don't even have thumbnails, 
> let alone tags, ratings, one click for embed link, auto file conversion 
> to multiple formats, etc., and forget about innovating next generation 
> stuff like the ability to link to particular moments within a clip and 
> true online collaborative editing (think video editing wiki).
> 
> Part of it is that there seems to be no-one putting any significant time 
> into Nimiq. And honestly, at this point I really feel like its a serious 
> mistake to continue with Nimiq if there are no developers working on it.
> 
> There are already better FOSS video CMS tools out there, obviously 
> people are working on stuff for Drupal, and there are the tools 
> developed by participatory culture foundation (broadcast machine, 
> videobomb, democracy player).
> 
> Frankly, I can't think of any reason to continue with a CMS that no one 
> is working on, when there are other projects that a) already have better 
> functionality and b) have significant teams of developers constantly 
> working on them.
> 
> I'm sorry if this sounds harsh to anyone on this list who has put energy 
> into Nimiq. Please correct me if I'm wrong and there is some team of 
> people working away and soon to release the next, more functional 
> version. But if not, it just doesn't make any sense, and we should start 
> seriously discussing a switch to a system that is more functional and is 
> alive.
> 
> Just off the top of my head I can see 3 interesting possibilities:
> 
> 1. Drupal (duh). And re: the previous post, we can use Archive.org 
> instead of Amazon.
> 
> 2. Broadcast Machine. Not very flexible yet, really, so I don't know if 
> it's a good choice, but frankly it would work better than what we have 
> and it has developers working on it (it supports thumbnails, tags, 
> multiple feeds, user accounts, etc.)
> 
> 3. A different conception of the site entirely, where we focus less on 
> providing a space for people to upload and more on syndicating indymedia 
> content from everywhere: from all IMCs, but also could pull video 
> content tagged 'indymedia' from every video site (videobomb, mefeedia, 
> etc. etc., hell, even youtube)
> 
> 
> OK that's more than 2 cents.
> 
> peace
> schock
> 
> 
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