[IMC-Video] [anna at engagemedia.org: FOSS Codecs for Online Video: Usability, Uptake and Development]

Mon Dec 3 22:52:18 PST 2007

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your response :)

There is a project page on Code Coop for Indytube here:
http://codecoop.org/projects/indytube/

However the latest work AFAIK on this is actually on the Plumi tracker here:
http://www.plumi.org/browser/indytube

Plumi is a video-sharing app built on Plone:
http://plumi.org

Here are the Plumi tickets related to Indytube to get an idea of what 
we're working on:
http://www.plumi.org/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=Transcoding&component=EmbeddedPlayback&order=priority

I think the status is that John Duda has been contributing our changes 
back to Indytube on Code Coop, but we (Plumi/EngageMedia) may take over 
maintenance of this at some point.

The ticket related to implementing the mv_embed script is here:
http://www.plumi.org/ticket/19

Someone has already tested the use of mv_embed with Indytube, but has 
not yet contributed the code AFAIK.

There is an Indytube list here:
http://lists.codecoop.org/mailman/listinfo/indytube-coders

But you may be better off joining the Plumi list here:
http://lists.plumi.org/listinfo/discuss

Thanks for your excellent work on mv_embed! We hope to be able to use 
this via Indytube and the Plumi video-sharing package in the near 
future. Your help with this would be much appreciated. Very interested 
to know about playlists in the script and sub-titling too.

Also please do let us know about the outcomes of w3c video meeting :)

Cheers,
Anna
EngageMedia.org / Plumi.org

Michael Dale wrote:
> hello mark and imc-video list,
>
> Thats a very good report :) I would be interested to be included on the 
> imc-video list. Also this indyTube sounds like a good idea ;) (is 
> development being coordinated on the imc-video list?  ... I would be 
> happy to adapt mv_embed to indyTubes needs... also mv_embed has expanded 
> to support playlists and some basic metadata stuff.
>
> There is a W3C video meeting end of next week. 
> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/video/
> We will be pushing for standardization around ogg theora for 
> container/codec and annodex CMML for inter-stream timed metadata. 
> Ofcourse apple, nokia and adobe will be there as well so we will see how 
> far we get ;)... Their goal is to make the standards codec agnostic like 
> they successfully lobbied to do with the html5 spec ..so that just 
> "recommends" ogg theora rather than "requires".  Which lets them push 
> their respective proprietary formats...But we should be able to add 
> plugins to IE and safari and or push harder on adoption of firefox 3 
> with ~cool~ online video applications that will "look best with" ff3 ;)
>
> On implementation front we should be investing into projects like 
> indyTube... once the free formats get out there some of the 
> technological challenges they address like standardized metadata and 
> easy reuse of footage should given them some advantages over 
> encapsulated flash video and be more decentralization friendly...Similar 
> to how blogs/news is ~mostly~ decentralized today... For something like 
> indyTube it may be good to look at the mediawiki transcription software 
> I am working on... since one of its practical applications could be 
> community multi-lingual translation of published video clips...  I will 
> be setting up a demo selecting transcripts layers for w3c meeting... so 
> I will email that to imc-video list once I get it working :)
>
> peace,
> --michael
>
> mark burdett wrote:
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>> hi, i was wondering if you'd have any comments on this..
>> and btw would be cool to have you on the imc-video list if you're 
>> interested in global imc video discussion...
>>
>> --mark B.
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>> Hi IMC-sters,
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>> I'm happy to announce the release of the second draft of this report, 
>> which is now available for public circulation. Many thanks go to those who 
>> contributed their feedback after the first draft.
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>> FOSS Codecs for Online Video: Usability, Uptake and Development*
>> A review of available tools for the creation, playback and embedding of 
>> online video using Free and Open Source Software video codecs and a look 
>> at the most pressing areas for development to enhance their adoption by 
>> social change video projects on the web.
>> http://wiki.transmission.cc/index.php/FOSS_Codecs_For_Online_Video:_Usability_Uptake_and_Development_1.2
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>> A version in PDF is also available for reading offline here:
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>> *Summary of Recommendations*
>> For those of you who wish to skip to the good part, there is a Summary of 
>> Recommendations with links to further information and alternatives within 
>> the report.
>> http://wiki.transmission.cc/index.php/FOSS_Codecs_For_Online_Video:_Usability_Uptake_and_Development_1.2#Summary_of_Recommendations
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>> *Feedback and Input*
>> There is a page on the wiki here for your input:
>> http://wiki.transmission.cc/index.php/FOSS_Codecs_For_Online_Video:_Input
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>> *Distribution*
>> Please forward this report to any individuals/groups who might be 
>> interested in order to continue to promote the use and further development 
>> of FOSS video codecs and associated software. The report is released under 
>> the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2/
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>> *Support and Network*
>> This report was written for the Transmission network of social justice 
>> online video projects.
>> http://transmission.cc
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>> Many thanks,
>> Anna
>> EngageMedia.org / Plumi.org
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