[IMC-Video] It's Our Web!

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Ben & Indymedia:
There are a few slogan by which meida giants live by that answers what Ben typed and they are:
1. never give up
2. whatever it takes
3. learn the rules so thast you'll know how to break them

In creating the youtubes and myspaces and facebooks, it doesn't matter what individuals use these sites for, the bigger picture is in the addiction and dependency on these and other site like them to get on in the world. Once hooked, your own behavior and emotions are manipulated.
We fail to realize, however, that the appearance of activist videos on these sites do draw millions of viewers and are excellent vehicles for distribution and dissemination. We also fail to realize, and more importantly to Ben's point (or so I think is Ben's point) that if viewers don't purchase what is advertised on these sites, neither the sites or its advertisers would be making money.
Therefore the focus shouldn't be on using these sites to post videos and have them carry our messages to others, instead, it is not to get caught up in the consumer culture frenzy.   

-----Original Message-----
>From: ben <ben at riseup.net>
>Sent: Dec 4, 2007 3:09 PM
>To: imc-video at lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: Re: [IMC-Video] It's Our Web!
>
>oh the irony, a video pointing out how media giants exploit free content
>posted on youtube by the makers as their prime vehicle for distribution.
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>Then, for double the irony, they use the Creative Commons Noncommercial
>license while telling people that that means they can repost it anywhere,
>apparently ignoring the fact that the non-commercial clause would exclude
>free use of the video on commercial sites such as youtube etc which make
>they money from selling the audience they attract with free content....
>classic ;-)
>
>ben
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>> We would like to brodcast it but cant from youtube. Can you post it as a
>> download so we can add it to our RSS feed on http://visionontv.net
>>
>> Would recommend blip.tv for a direct download or vuze for a torrent both
>> are very easy to setup.
>>
>> Our speck for encoding is here http://visionontv.info
>>
>> Nice video (:
>>
>> Hamish
>>
>>
>> steve at coanews.org wrote:
>>> We have just launched the ?Our Web? campaign/video at
>>> http://freespeech.org/ourweb
>>> -please visit, check out our exciting animated video and share it with
>>> your networks.
>>>
>>> This is a pivotal time for the Internet, the most powerful and
>>> interactive medium humans have ever seen.   New commercial incursions
>>> by big online media enterprises including the widely distained
>>> "Facebook Beacon", make explicit what new media giants have been doing
>>> quietly for some time; searching for new and evermore effective ways
>>> to sell our attention, our clicks and our private information to
>>> advertisers and marketers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for helping get the word out about this; we need to
>>> have a serious public debate about this issue now, before interests
>>> are further entrenched.
>>>
>>> Find a background article on this subject here:
>>> http://coanews.org/article/2007/our-web-not-theirs
>>> -this article available under a Creative Commons license, which means
>>> you may freely republish it in full on any website/publication.
>>>
>>>
>>> It?s Our Web!
>>> Steve Anderson
>>> http://freespeech.org/ourweb
>>>
>>>
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