[IMC-Video] [IMC-Tech] cloning youtube?

[rafael2k]

hi all,

> >> primary target is to share and communicate information/news, not to
> >> smash adobe and microsoft, that can be left for a second step.
> >
> > But if that second step isn't done soon enough and Adobe have all the
> > Sklyarov's locked up, Microsoft have all the computers locked down,
> > IBM have exported all the hardware jobs and Novell signs deals with
> > them all, how are you going to share and communicate then?
>
> Yes, we MUST fight on every front, however, we're late. Youtube is
> working and popular, we need to start something soon and then keep on
> improving and moving towards the most free idea. That's how the Linux
> kernel was done: it started as a crappy thing and kept on growing. The
> FSF approach's mach-micro-kernel is still unstable, 20 years later.

I don't want to be youtube.
youtube is the way capitalism turns free ideias into products.
imho, indymedia do not pretend to be the most advanced cms site, but yes make 
smaller voices speak.

> Then, putting a bit of history:
>
> - IBM has released loads of patents for Linux and has contributed with
> millions of lines of code to the Kernel, RAID, and paid big amount of
> coders to improve FLOSS.

yes, and now linux do not run well anymore in my 486, and almost nobody helped 
cinelerra in about 10 years.
but in S/390, oh yes....

> - Novell bought SuSE and Ximian. You can bet nobody did so much for the
> FLOSS desktops than they.

and what?
they are companies that wants money, that is the way capitalism take over free 
ideias into the 'system' (to make money).


> For me, Adobe and MS are another song ;)

why?

and don't want companies exist et all.

bye,
rafael diniz

> >>     In fact, most video activists aren't using Kino/Cinelerra for video
> >> edition, most use Adobe's or Apple's software, so, God damned! what
> >> we're talking about?  [...]
> >
> > Yes, that's another problem, but existance of other problems should
> > not make us discourage people from working on any problem they choose,
> > as long as we agree it is a problem that needs solving.  If you attack
> > someone for not agreeing with your priority, you usually lose someone
> > working on a problem - it's very rare that you'll convince them to
> > work on your priority problem instead.  I've learnt this the hard way.
>
> Sure, the ship is sinking and you only have two hands, what's first?
> switching the pcs from windows to linux or patching the holes on the boat?
>
> I already know your answer :P
>
>
> Regards,

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