[IMC-Video] [IMC-Tech] cloning youtube?

[Kenneth Peiruza]

Hi all,

    This thread starts to remember me the debate about coding MIR in
Java 'cause Java wasn't GPL.

    After performing some testing with web-video-players, cortado was
the only one to be coded in GPL languages, with GPL license and which
suports OGG. Then, we realized that the Java Pluggin support for firefox
on windows and Linux is simply crappy. It takes a whole day to load and
turns the browser even more unstable. So, we decided to use flash
players, as there's an inmense bunch of good players and are very quick
loading.

    Then, if d'you already have GPL players WHICH WORK, i.e. flvplayer,
why to re-invent the wheel?

    Here in Barcelona we're finishing (ETA 8 weeks ) v1.0 of Anydata,
which, in fact is also a "youtube" clone but a couple of more things.

    It's not a blog, it's a multimedia-depot, you can take a look at
http://www.anydata.tv

    It converts any video into FLV for previews but keeps the original
for downloads, handles images, mp3, ogg, pdf, bookmarks......

    Feel free to test as well: admin/gotcha

    We're just removing the last Java parts of it to be only
flash-plugin dependent, after all, we're not the majority on Internet,
if d'you want people to use your system, you MUST adapt to what people
can find usable and make user's life easier.


    Then, another KEY point: NEVER RELY ON OTHER's TIMINGS. I could
easily tell about other FLOSS which said things like "we'll release v2.0
in one May 2006" and they are just releasing it right now. Never trust
geek timings :D
 

    Please, first get users, then make FLOSS-politics. Indymedia's
primary target is to share and communicate information/news, not to
smash adobe and microsoft, that can be left for a second step.

    In fact, most video activists aren't using Kino/Cinelerra for video
edition, most use Adobe's or Apple's software, so, God damned! what
we're talking about?


PS: I'm a GNU/Linux user since 1996, so, nothing to tell about free
software, I love it and strongly support it, but don't feel comfortable
with megalomaniac ideas like total freedom of software or death. In
fact, I'm an independent FLOSS consultant for SuSE/Novell, IBM and some
regional bureaus in Spain.

After knowing Stallman and Icaza, I rather prefer Icaza's approach of
free software -> First users, then politics. Maybe it's because Icaza
was a poor guy  with foot on earth and Stallman is from a rich country
and decided to be a philosopher.



Best regards,


Kenneth Peiruza





En/na rafael2k ha escrit:
> Em Quinta 26 Outubro 2006 23:47, john duda escreveu:
>   
>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 03:16:04AM +0200, boud wrote:
>>
>> in general, my concern is without a solution that "just works",
>> indymedia users will increasingly turn to commercial services like
>> google's youtube which offer them no semblance of protection of their
>> personal data.  i'd rather code something quick with admittedly
>> questionable software ethics if it helps people make and distribute
>> media without putting themselves at more serious legal risk.  we could
>> go back and forth on this, but there's always been compromises in
>> indymedia.
>>
>>     
>>> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with this?
>>>
>>> Could people starting to support flash at least try out gnash and other
>>> free packages?
>>>       
>> gnash doesn't do video playback. it is "right around the corner"
>> according to the developer mailinglists, but who knows....
>>     
>
> gnash do not support video playback, but swfdec already support youtube, for 
> exemple, since 2007-03-22 (swfdec 0.4.3):
>
> the latest version is 0.4.5:
> http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/
>
> bye,
> rafael diniz
>
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