[IMC-Video] [IMC-Tech] cloning youtube?

[DeeDee Halleck]

YAY!!! I totally agree!!
DeeDee

On Jul 5, 2007, at 10:06 AM, rafael2k wrote:

> hi all,
>
>>>> primary target is to share and communicate information/news, not to
>>>> smash adobe and microsoft, that can be left for a second step.
>>>
>>> But if that second step isn't done soon enough and Adobe have all  
>>> the
>>> Sklyarov's locked up, Microsoft have all the computers locked down,
>>> IBM have exported all the hardware jobs and Novell signs deals with
>>> them all, how are you going to share and communicate then?
>>
>> Yes, we MUST fight on every front, however, we're late. Youtube is
>> working and popular, we need to start something soon and then keep on
>> improving and moving towards the most free idea. That's how the Linux
>> kernel was done: it started as a crappy thing and kept on growing.  
>> The
>> FSF approach's mach-micro-kernel is still unstable, 20 years later.
>
> I don't want to be youtube.
> youtube is the way capitalism turns free ideias into products.
> imho, indymedia do not pretend to be the most advanced cms site,  
> but yes make
> smaller voices speak.
>
>> Then, putting a bit of history:
>>
>> - IBM has released loads of patents for Linux and has contributed  
>> with
>> millions of lines of code to the Kernel, RAID, and paid big amount of
>> coders to improve FLOSS.
>
> yes, and now linux do not run well anymore in my 486, and almost  
> nobody helped
> cinelerra in about 10 years.
> but in S/390, oh yes....
>
>> - Novell bought SuSE and Ximian. You can bet nobody did so much  
>> for the
>> FLOSS desktops than they.
>
> and what?
> they are companies that wants money, that is the way capitalism  
> take over free
> ideias into the 'system' (to make money).
>
>
>> For me, Adobe and MS are another song ;)
>
> why?
>
> and don't want companies exist et all.
>
> bye,
> rafael diniz
>
>>>>     In fact, most video activists aren't using Kino/Cinelerra  
>>>> for video
>>>> edition, most use Adobe's or Apple's software, so, God damned! what
>>>> we're talking about?  [...]
>>>
>>> Yes, that's another problem, but existance of other problems should
>>> not make us discourage people from working on any problem they  
>>> choose,
>>> as long as we agree it is a problem that needs solving.  If you  
>>> attack
>>> someone for not agreeing with your priority, you usually lose  
>>> someone
>>> working on a problem - it's very rare that you'll convince them to
>>> work on your priority problem instead.  I've learnt this the hard  
>>> way.
>>
>> Sure, the ship is sinking and you only have two hands, what's first?
>> switching the pcs from windows to linux or patching the holes on  
>> the boat?
>>
>> I already know your answer :P
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>
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