[IMC-Video] new in this list...

[foz at riseup.net]

Hi people,

I am Foz from Brazil, são paulo, I just entered this list, well I am not a
very well english spoken so please forgive me for any language problem
(but with time i get used to it, and it will becomes better),

Well I produce videos over here, and I want to help (so tell me if I can
do anything),

I will try to catch up all the discussions till now,

well if someone has any answer fell free to mail me,

foz



> I'd like to participate in a video IMC editorial team!
>
>
> I don't know what's so abstract, we have two filmforge sandboxes set up
> (http://filmforge.indybay.mobi/ and http://filmforge.koumbit.net), and
> did someone set up the plumi sandbox yet? If so please send the link.
>
> I also made a mockup that we could use as a guide to skin them:
> http://wiki.koumbit.net/FilmForge?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ivdn_vapor_screen.jpg.
>
>
> Once both are up and running for a little while, and we've all played
> around with them, we can discuss and irc meeting to come to consensus
> about what to use. Then, we can start promoting it widely.
>
> best,
>
> schock
>
>
>
> rotesocke wrote:
>> So here I got some for the chicken. Maybe we can make it lay an egg
>> then? There are 300Eur granted for now...
>>
>> Chicken:
>> I agree with Ng's argument that we need to see the site alive and have
>> some nutrition going. Because at the same time should worries - if we
>> don't get bandwidth for this site, how are we going to get it for
>> another site - end.
>>
>> Egg:
>> I do think support will pick up, as soon as a demand for the site is
>> also stated by it's features. Therefore I support Mick's argument that
>> it seems to be a desperate adventure to promote a site to users /
>> videoproducers / moneygivers / techs, if they can't really use it or
>> don't see(!sic) the use of it. But that is a dead-end
>>
>> Situation:
>> Why not do both at the same time? We get some to eat for the chicken AND
>> help it with the egg (instead of talking to the egg about the chicken
>> and to the chicken about the egg).
>>
>> (1) Please feel free to contribute to the Imc-Finance request at
>> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcVideoFinanceRequest. I will add
>> some text already used for other finance requests in a few days.
>>
>> (2) How/where are we going to start a video indymedia editorial team?
>> Any ideas? What is it going to do? I think it's good to have one, just
>> in case ;)
>>
>>
>> André
>>
>>
>> Mick Fuzz schrieb:
>>>> cms's etc. are in
>>>> my opinion in a way useless if we don't get enough
>>>> money (or offers for
>>>> free bandwidth) together to pay the bandwidth needed
>>>> by video.indy
>>>>
>>> I think we are in a chicken and egg situation.
>>>
>>> Maybe noone want to get money together for a project
>>> which doesn't fufill what they need.
>>>
>>> I do share your frustration at the abstract nature of
>>> this project at the moment. I think that you are right
>>> ng , rather than just concentrate on dream wish list
>>> of a video indymedia site we need to get more
>>> practical.
>>>
>>> But - I do question the value of promoting and paying
>>> for bandwidth for the site as it exists at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally I think we can do a LOT without getting
>>> money together for bandwidth. For a start we could
>>> form a functioning video indymedia editorial team, and
>>> pull together a website based on videos that are
>>> already on the net. There are plenty.
>>>
>>> Then we could form a functioning tech team, a first
>>> project that takes no bandwidth would be to create an
>>> aggregation site that makes the presentation and
>>> searching of videos already on the net. A group of 3
>>> or more people would seem to be desirable for the
>>> stability of the project.
>>>
>>> We can also work on an upload system that uses
>>> archive.org - this has always been a possibility for
>>> free bandwidth but has never actually been done. How
>>> hard would it be, I wonder, it just looks like
>>> submitting metadata, and file via ftp.
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/help/contrib-advanced.php
>>>
>>> so ng, while i share your frustration I don't think
>>> that Money is really going to get solve all the issues
>>> we have. In fact I would argue that currently, More
>>> Money - Mo' Problems :)
>>>
>>> mick
>>>
>>>
>>>> so anybody more willing to offer some money?
>>>>
>>>> especially if we want to make the site more
>>>> attractive, using embedded
>>>> videos in flash etc. we will use a hell lot more of
>>>> bandwidth than
>>>> currently with serving only high quality downloads.
>>>>
>>>> so what to do beside finding new cms's and funky new
>>>> ways of
>>>> distributing videos?!
>>>>
>>>> the option to raise the bandwidth on bolobolo is in
>>>> my opinon quite fair
>>>> and cheap. However I think it's reasonable that the
>>>> people hosting
>>>> bolobolo want to be sure that the money for the
>>>> additional bandwidth is
>>>> really coming as they can't pay it on their own.
>>>>
>>>> it was also mentioned that imc-finance can be asked
>>>> to give some money.
>>>> however a request has to be written, who is willing
>>>> to do that? somebody
>>>> as a liason on imc-finance offered to follow the
>>>> request through the
>>>> process and look to pass it. So is there somebody
>>>> willing to write a
>>>> request?
>>>>
>>>> thanks a lot and greets ng
>>>>
>>>> ps: sorry if the mail is offending anybody. However
>>>> I find it quite
>>>> annoying that everybody is complaining about that
>>>> video.indy is/was
>>>> offline and requesting new cms's, as well more/new
>>>> features etc. But
>>>> nobody is willing to help to organise the most
>>>> essential thing for a
>>>> video plattform: a lot of bandwidth! Or even just
>>>> the money for it. just
>>>> my 2 cents on this topic.
>>>>
>>>>
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