[IMC-Video] translation-tool

Michael Dale dale at ucsc.edu
Wed Jan 23 15:22:41 PST 2008


thanks for the positive review Anna ;)

yea I think the metavid extension to mediaWiki will prove to be useful 
for multilingual transcriptions. The interfaces for that type of 
activity are not yet polished ... but the underlining tie-ins to 
mediaWiki were made with multilingual transcriptions in mind.

some quick notes:
the audio is not so low on the mp4:
http://metavid.ucsc.edu/promo/quick_tour_metavidWiki.mp4

I won't be widely available until I return to California around the 
5th(attending FOMS and linux conf)
If someone wants to explore a metavidWiki for the purpose of 
multilingual transcripts that would be great :) The few people/groups 
running the bleeding edge of metavidWiki hang out in #metavid  on freenode.

peace,
--michael

anna at engagemedia.org wrote:
> hi all,
>
> EngageMedia are at the Foundations of Open Media Software conference 
> right now in Melbourne.
> http://www.annodex.org/events/foms2008/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage
>
> i don't have a lot of details to pass on yet, but the Metavid project in 
> conjunction with Annodex, Ogg and MediaWiki seems to hold some potential 
> for collaborative sub-titling and translations of video files.
>
> Annodex is a project that uses the CMML (Continuous Media Markup 
> Language) to annotate media streams.
> http://www.annodex.net/node/71
>
> the Metavid project is using this to annotate Ogg streams of CSPAN 
> coverage of Senate proceedings in the US with transcripts. media files 
> can then be searched based on the speaker and the content of their 
> speech which has been transcribed. its a very powerful idea, that 
> MediaWiki (and Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia) are looking to adopt 
> also. Metavid is providing a MediaWiki extension, that will play back 
> Ogg in the browser using the mv_embed script, but also allow for the 
> annotation of Annodex media files.
>
> this all means that they've created an interface to add text to segments 
> of video files (clips, but of the same continuous stream). you can use a 
> javascript API to display these annotations in any way you wish. it also 
> means you can add them on the fly...
>
> anyhow, this sounds like it has real potential to be used as a 
> sub-titling tool. as it is there is no distinction in CMML between 
> transcripts, sub-titles, captions or other annotations or text. CMML can 
> also contain hyperlinks etc. but they will look to define sub-titles 
> within CMML soon (not necessary in terms of using it for sub-titles, but 
> useful if many types of annotation are added to the one file).
>
> with Metavid you can export the CMML file. this is good for editing in 
> other applications, for importing into other systems, and even gives the 
> potential to translate the CMML file (XML format) into a subtitle file 
> such as .srt that you can then bundle with your high-resolution version 
> and play back in VLC.... so you could subtitle online, and then export 
> that subtitle file... potentially...
>
> anyhow, the Metavid project will release a new version soon, along with 
> a new demo and wiki site for the project, so more details to follow. 
> just wanted to share this development with you now as its exciting 
> stuff. lots of other powerful features to check out too... it contains 
> the mv_embed script which has come leaps and bounds lately in terms of 
> support for embedded Ogg in the webpage.. a new release and demo of this 
> improved functionality will emerge soon.
>
> there is a quick tour of Metavid here:
> http://metavid.ucsc.edu/promo/quick_tour_metavidWiki.ogg
>
> (unfortunately the audio seems very low, but you can see a demonstration 
> of adding/editing annotations, near the beginning of the video)
>
> this is an open source project, unlike dotsub - and subtitle horse 
> (g8-tv) is also not open source yet? it also works with Ogg rather than 
> .flv - both an advantage and a disadvantage i suppose, depending on your 
> perspective ;)
>
> if such a system was deployed in Indytube you could transcode to Ogg 
> (Indytube does this already with ffmpeg2theora if you ask it to) on the 
> server-side while preserving your original file for download with .srt 
> file... plus have the Ogg viewable with subtitles online... and as its a 
> MediaWiki extension then that is one CMS it will already be implemented 
> within.
>
> cheers,
> anna
>
>
> rotesocke wrote:
>   
>> So for my part, i can provide the contact who programmed the 
>> translation-tool for http://g8-tv.org. He is willing to share it and 
>> do the setup for video.indymedia.org...
>>
>> andré
>>
>>
>> Occam schrieb:
>>     
>>> On 24.01.2008, at 07:21, rotesocke at eml.cc wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Sounds good to me! What exactly is “the new imc-cms”? Is someone 
>>>> working
>>>> on it right now (where do i get information on this) and what is needed
>>>> to set it up?
>>>>         
>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-cms/
>>>
>>>
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