[IMC-Video] translation-tool

[anna at engagemedia.org]

hi all,

EngageMedia are at the Foundations of Open Media Software conference 
right now in Melbourne.
http://www.annodex.org/events/foms2008/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage

i don't have a lot of details to pass on yet, but the Metavid project in 
conjunction with Annodex, Ogg and MediaWiki seems to hold some potential 
for collaborative sub-titling and translations of video files.

Annodex is a project that uses the CMML (Continuous Media Markup 
Language) to annotate media streams.
http://www.annodex.net/node/71

the Metavid project is using this to annotate Ogg streams of CSPAN 
coverage of Senate proceedings in the US with transcripts. media files 
can then be searched based on the speaker and the content of their 
speech which has been transcribed. its a very powerful idea, that 
MediaWiki (and Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia) are looking to adopt 
also. Metavid is providing a MediaWiki extension, that will play back 
Ogg in the browser using the mv_embed script, but also allow for the 
annotation of Annodex media files.

this all means that they've created an interface to add text to segments 
of video files (clips, but of the same continuous stream). you can use a 
javascript API to display these annotations in any way you wish. it also 
means you can add them on the fly...

anyhow, this sounds like it has real potential to be used as a 
sub-titling tool. as it is there is no distinction in CMML between 
transcripts, sub-titles, captions or other annotations or text. CMML can 
also contain hyperlinks etc. but they will look to define sub-titles 
within CMML soon (not necessary in terms of using it for sub-titles, but 
useful if many types of annotation are added to the one file).

with Metavid you can export the CMML file. this is good for editing in 
other applications, for importing into other systems, and even gives the 
potential to translate the CMML file (XML format) into a subtitle file 
such as .srt that you can then bundle with your high-resolution version 
and play back in VLC.... so you could subtitle online, and then export 
that subtitle file... potentially...

anyhow, the Metavid project will release a new version soon, along with 
a new demo and wiki site for the project, so more details to follow. 
just wanted to share this development with you now as its exciting 
stuff. lots of other powerful features to check out too... it contains 
the mv_embed script which has come leaps and bounds lately in terms of 
support for embedded Ogg in the webpage.. a new release and demo of this 
improved functionality will emerge soon.

there is a quick tour of Metavid here:
http://metavid.ucsc.edu/promo/quick_tour_metavidWiki.ogg

(unfortunately the audio seems very low, but you can see a demonstration 
of adding/editing annotations, near the beginning of the video)

this is an open source project, unlike dotsub - and subtitle horse 
(g8-tv) is also not open source yet? it also works with Ogg rather than 
.flv - both an advantage and a disadvantage i suppose, depending on your 
perspective ;)

if such a system was deployed in Indytube you could transcode to Ogg 
(Indytube does this already with ffmpeg2theora if you ask it to) on the 
server-side while preserving your original file for download with .srt 
file... plus have the Ogg viewable with subtitles online... and as its a 
MediaWiki extension then that is one CMS it will already be implemented 
within.

cheers,
anna


rotesocke wrote:
> So for my part, i can provide the contact who programmed the 
> translation-tool for http://g8-tv.org. He is willing to share it and 
> do the setup for video.indymedia.org...
>
> andré
>
>
> Occam schrieb:
>>
>> On 24.01.2008, at 07:21, rotesocke at eml.cc wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds good to me! What exactly is “the new imc-cms”? Is someone 
>>> working
>>> on it right now (where do i get information on this) and what is needed
>>> to set it up?
>>
>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-cms/
>>
>>
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