[IMC-Video] [Fwd: Re: jilt's proposal]

[jilt]

rafael2k wrote:

> what?
> did you ever tried cinelerra?
> here in cmi-brasil, we at campinas and goiania use cinelerra all the time, 
> pretty easily.
> I started a howto:
> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/Cinelerra

Finally I've found someone that uses cinelerra!!!!
Compliments for your work on documentation!

Would you like to insert in your "how to" the document I wrote in 
English on how to cover faces in demonstration videos with cinelerra?
I' think this could be important in particular in demonstration like g8, 
in effect also g8-tv has got one how to only for aftereffects.
The how to you can see in the links below includes 4 software of wich 1 
open source (cinelerra)

http://ch.indymedia.org/media/2007/12//55442.pdf

or

http:jilt.indivia.net/How_to_masks.pdf

> 
>> we need (:
>>> Collaborative and Online Video Editing
>>> Been to international gathering of video activists over the last four
>>> or five years and this often comes up. I have seen projects such as
>>> Tapestry demonstrated and been excited by some of the potential but
>>> ultimately I don't see the point. People generally don't collaborate
>>> on video editing and there are major security issues with online
>>> footage sharing. While available bandwidth has increased massively
>>> over the last few years it's not realistic to work with uncompressed
>>> DV footage online and anything else will require post compression and
>>> therefore time and processing power which will put people off
>>> unloading. Personally I really don't see this as a worthwhile place to
>>> put effort.
> 
> have you ever tried using the .xml of cinelerra in a svn repository, and the 
> dv files shared for all people doing the video edition?


Well this would be not very much expensive and could could be a starting 
  of collaboration but as MAra said in the first mails it' very 
difficult for people not used to it to install cinelerra so the right 
solution if we don't want to collaborate in few "Techie" people it's to 
build the right PC to make cinelerra run from remote places of the 
world; and to have bandwich.

I'm now building a cluster for using a render farm (a gift that was 
given to me for that purpose) with cinelerra and I'd like to use 
bandwich from diciannove.net (lower prices for political purposes) to build
There is also a blender module published on bsd license 
(verse.blender.org) that could allow people to wirk on the same istance 
of cinelerra (readapting the code)


> 
>>> Collaboration works to some degree in the live face to face
>>> environment of a convergence centre but beyond that it breaks down.
>> I agree with Ben here wholeheartedly having been involved in setting up
>> a number of such projects - the bigist one the European Newsreal which
>> died a long death with this very thing on its lips... editing is a
>> individual thing - most big co-operative edits are made of lots of
>> individual segments which are put together by a few individuals thus the
>> "co-operation" is always limited.
>>
>>> My view is that distribution is key. We don't really have a problem
>>> making videos, we have a problem getting them out of the ghetto and
>>> giving them the audience they deserve while people are moving away
>>> from TV and the broadcast model and have less and less time or
>>> attention span yet greater and greater demand from a wider and wider
>>> variety of video producers and distribution services. I think mobile
>>> and streaming content is key and will be more and more important in
>>> coming years and indymedia hasn't even got the basics yet.
> 
> may be broacast w/ ours transmitters:
> http://wwvince.interfree.it/PellegriniBacciLuise_WSR08_CR.pdf

I' didn't want to assume that you have problem making videos, I'd like 
indymedia video to give a standard method of making videos in 
collaborative mode.

ciao
jilt