Onderwerp : [Imc-vlaanderen] imc-women tekst verbeterd en aangepast

Dit zou ik dus nog aanpassen

> *It is not enough to talk about gender or sex only,
> Indymedia Oost-Vlaanderen recognizes that the struggle against patriarchy
> also touches topics like transgender, homo- and bisexuality and
> transsexuality. We believe that sex and gender is a personal matter which
> goes beyond the individuals' choice and which is a major aspect of his or
> her personality. On the matter of sex and gender we state that it is our
> duty to respect this fact and to open up an atmosphere in which all
> individuals can flourish as who they are.
> This respect for the individuality of others should also reflect on other
> basic personal matters like systems of belief, colour of skin, culture,
> physical or mental abilities and so on. The members of the Indymedia Oost-
> Vlaanderen collective agree that in order to open up a free and dynamic
> space for all, everybody should respect the others'  choices and aspects
of
> character for as long as these do not interfere with the objective of an
> anti-patriarchal collective AND THE RIGHTS, CHOICES AND ASPECTS OF
CHARACTER OF OTHERS.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <manutiht op vegetarisme.be>
To: <imc-vlaanderen op lists.indymedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: [Imc-vlaanderen] imc-women tekst verbeterd en aangepast


> hoi,
>
>
> vanaf nu kun je mails over imc naar dit adres sturen
> daarnaast heb ik de tekst aangepast volgens de voorstellen, enkel het
> voorstel van maarten heb ik ingekort en een beetje aangepast (lees maar na
> in sectie over sex en gender, omdat ik tegen postmodernisme ben a la ieder
> zijn mening, en vind dat de maatstaf een anti-patriarchaal collectief meot
> zijn
>
> andere oppinies: nog 2 dagen om ze te melden
>
> hieronder tekst
>
> Dear people from imc-women
>
> Indy-ovl (east flanders, see www.indymedia-vlaanderen.org for the
testsite)
> have received with much interest your proposal for the questions to be
> added to the application form. As we would like to show our support for
the
> proposal, we have discussed the questions in the proposal (with the great
> help of libby who is also working on imc-women) and we would like to give
a
> transcript of this discussion in the hope that we could get some feedback
> on our proposals, our remarks, and especially our questions towards imc-
> women.
>
> Libby explained the proposal and referred to the opinion in the imc-women
> group that women and minorities don't feel home in the often macho world
of
> ICT and INDYMEDIA, and that there is a need for a room for minorities and
> women where they can discuss without being interferred with.
>
> Some remarks were made by individuals on the proposal and we would like to
> give them also to you :
>
> *there should be attention that the proposal does not reinforce cultural
> gender-patterns: women are not always less interested in conflict or in
> ITC. The idea that women are less intrested in technology is also an idea
> made up by our macho culture, however we acknowledge that the cultural
> pressure in our society endorses these patterns, and have te be taken into
> account.
>
> *It is not enough to talk about gender or sex only,
> Indymedia Oost-Vlaanderen recognizes that the struggle against patriarchy
> also touches topics like transgender, homo- and bisexuality and
> transsexuality. We believe that sex and gender is a personal matter which
> goes beyond the individuals' choice and which is a major aspect of his or
> her personality. On the matter of sex and gender we state that it is our
> duty to respect this fact and to open up an atmosphere in which all
> individuals can flourish as who they are.
> This respect for the individuality of others should also reflect on other
> basic personal matters like systems of belief, colour of skin, culture,
> physical or mental abilities and so on. The members of the Indymedia Oost-
> Vlaanderen collective agree that in order to open up a free and dynamic
> space for all, everybody should respect the others'  choices and aspects
of
> character for as long as these do not interfere with the objective of an
> anti-patriarchal collective.
>
> We acknowledge that the makeup of our collectieve is not reflecting the
> diversity of the local community, There is an overrepresentation of white
> atheistic heterosexual middleclass males, and an underrepresentations of
> women and sexual, cultural and other minorities
> While we think it is important to keep this underrepresentation in mind,
> the feminist or anti-patriarchal struggle is more than just a struggle for
> equal representation, as this will only be a partial solution. We thought
> it would be wise to question our functioning as a collective where we
might
> attract certain types of personalities and repell others, thus fighting
the
> very cause of underrepresentation
>
> A brainstorm about the origins of this under representation gave the
> following results:
> *the origin of indymedia-ovl was indy-vlaanderen, a controversial site in
> belgium. As it was very controversial, there were alot of hard and tough
> discussions on how to proceed, this chased away minorities and people not
> interested in conflict
> *the state of mind in features and articles is orientated towards
> conflicts: features often highlight conflicts with police or the state,
and
> there is relatively less attention towards the more constructive social
> work, the social dimension of alternatives for the system.
> *women feel less interested in ICT and techie stuff,
>
> A brainstorm on how we can broaden the diversity of our collective as well
> as our reader/writers gave the following results:
>
> *we ask the imc-women group to share their proposals and experiences,
Libby
> draws for example attention to the polymedia bus, a project started by
> women in a context of cooperation. *We will try to use more humour in
> image, and texts
> * We will try to give the website a less agressive and intimidating look
> (black and blood red colours).
> *we will try to be more constructive towards other people and other imc's,
> and try to create a positive mood.
> *in our process text we will insert a paragraph with a reference to the
imc-
> women text, and our support for this proposal and we will add links to
> different lists and irc-rooms that are open to women or sexual, cultural
or
> other minorities
> * As for the content, we thought that maybe imc is too much focussed on
> moments of direct conflict and physical struggle with our ennemies,
whereas
> processes of constructing alternatives and co-operation pass less noticed.
> Therefore, we intend to give more interest to the latter.
> *In our meetings we will continue to use techniques (see Starhawk and PGA
> meetings) that give attention to the oppressed voices, or who make it more
> difficult to silence people.
> *We will activly try to involve more women, by appealing more to women to
> join us, and by putting a poll on the web site where everybody can
indicate
> what could be improved, or what they would like to see changed on the site
> or collective
> *we will try to make the manual for techies more easy to read
> *we will try to have more attention for kids, maybe on a long term have a
> special page for kids, with simple interface and features that interest
> kids or youngsters
>
> we hope that we get some feedback on these propositions, and that you will
> all let us know if you approve or not.
>
> for the indy-ovl collective this was a (crappy) translation by manutiht
>
>
>
>
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