[imc-italy] c'è chi sta peggio di noi...

[pinna]

mina ha scritto:
>> All that said, we hope that Indymedia Sydney would delete that feature 
>> the way it is now.
>>
>> The Indymedia Italy Team
> 
> per me ok per il testo ma aggiungerei una domanda su come sono giunti a 
> pubblicare questa cosa e come funziona il loro process.
> m
> 

abbiamo fatto 2 chiacchiere in chat con Cam, che e' poi la persona che
ha visto l'articolo sul newswire e l'ha ripubblicato come feature,
aggiungendo in seguito il secondo punto di vista (quello non reazionario)

se non capite l'inglese ma siete interessat*, scomodatevi almeno a farlo
sapere che qualcuno vi aiuta...

ciao
pinna

ps
QUANTI CAZZO SIETE SU QUESTA LISTA CHE NON SCRIVETE MAI UNA MAIL ?



Kameron what brings you to #sydney
pinna we have been very surprised by your RU486 feature
pinna the right-wing text in it, I mean

Kameron yeah allot of flack has been thrown my way for that
Kameron i changed the feature
Kameron so it includes both sides of the story
Kameron so the feature is now neatral

pinna so you are "cam", am i right?
Kameron yes

pinna yeah we can say that the feature is now neutral, but
pinna I think indymedia is NOT neutral

Kameron well yeah, i guess everything has its bias

pinna I see you promote newswire posts from the newswire to feature
pinna that's interesting
Kameron well kinda
Kameron we take parts of the newswire posts and put them in the feature
pinna right
pinna may you suggest me a link to your process info public pages?
Kameron http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcSydney

pinna however we don't think that feature is "neutral": we think it
highlights two approaches: a christian, heavy-conservative one, and a
libertarian one (but you published the latter after the first reactions,
am I right?)

Kameron yeah it got changed after people complained

obaz does this mean that you originally discussed the ftr and that in
IMCSydney you all agreed about the anti-pill approach?

Kameron i posted it to imc-sydney-content at lists.cat.org.au and nobody
blocked it in the next 12 hours

obaz so where did the complaints come from?
obaz from within IMC-Sydney? or from the newswire?
Kameron various places, on the newswire and irc
obaz oh: no dissent within the list responsible for the features, then?
Kameron nope
obaz right
obaz thanks
Kameron people are on holidays though, so some may not have seen it
Kameron why are you interested in this?

nik when i red this features on Sydney IMC i was i bit disappoiting it
.. beacuse of the heavy conservative approach
nik but it's only my opinion

Kameron yeah. i dont agree with the article myself. i only posted so
more people would go to the story and hopefully post dissenting views
Kameron and discuss the issue
Kameron featured stories generally get more hits

nik i came here to listen the facts from sydney IMC-ppl
nik :)
nik and discuss

pinna Kameron:  we are interested in this because we usually don't post
right-wing views in order to get people dissent on them.
pinna this seems to be your approach, Kameron

Kameron for this feature i guess it was. although if i look up what
right wing means, is it defined by 'anti-abortion'
Kameron if you look at my latest feature proposal, i doubt you could
label it right wing:
http://lists.cat.org.au/pipermail/imc-sydney-content/2006-January/002638.html

obaz right
obaz what I'd like to get is:
obaz do you always act like that in IMC sydney?
obaz do you change into ftrs posts you don't agree with
obaz expecting critics to show up?

Kameron if its an interesting article, perhaps. but usually its
something i agree with
obaz so you found it interesting...
Kameron or support, or think its worth discussing

carl0s i could agree with you IF
carl0s you did publish both sides at once.
Kameron well the article did give good information in that it said the
Bill is being discussed in parliament
carl0s BUT you didn't isn't it?
carl0s good info?
carl0s this was good info?
carl0s how can you say this?
Kameron yes, in that it makes people aware that it might be passed into law
carl0s i mean
carl0s so the info is
carl0s the bill
carl0s how about the rest?
Kameron the rest is the view of the poster
carl0s no it's view of the poster disguised into info.
carl0s that's the misleading part, i think.

pinna i'm going to go away,  Kameron, thanks for your attention.  I
defined "right-wing" the first part of the feature in Sydney homepage.
that is a right wing view. Surely, I feel happier reading your proposal
about  Militirisation. But Kameron, our feeling about women rights and
choice freedom are very strong.

pinna Kameron:  if we at italy IMC want to write to sydney IMC about
this, which is the preferred email address?
Kameron imc-sydney at lists.cat.org.au
obaz thanx Kameron . bye
pinna maybe we will talk about this on a international list as well
Kameron cc it to imc-sydney-content at lists.cat.org.au