[Listwork] Offer to Volunteer [was: Archives of private lists before July 2004 & Introduction]

[Alster]

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Hi Anthony!

Anthony wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, Alster. Sorry about the delay in replying but I
> was sick and as I (slowly) recovered was busy dealing with more urgent
> tasks that had to be dealt with more quickly.

Oh, I hope you recover(ed) well...

>> (1) Determining mailing lists which have been forgotten about,
>> contacting their admins, contacting their subscribers, and reporting
>> back to listworks task tracker at listwork at sos.indymedia.org
> 
> Is this work based on the slack list admins report that comes through
> listwork every so often?

Exactly. :)

>> (2) Replying to people who send email to the listwork mailing list
>> (listwork at lists.indymedia.org) or the mailman mailing list
>> (mailman at lists.indymedia.org) instead of the listwork task tracker
>> (listwork at sos.indymedia.org) or the relevant IMC contact, asking them to
>> resend their emails to the right address.
> 
> I can do that easily enough. I see that you already have a stock
> response for such misdirected emails.

That's right. Fortunately there will be less of such emails in the
future (they'll be sent directly to the task tracker and thus sending
automatic replies is even easier now).

>> In this case, and if you can in fact spend a bit of time _regularly_, I
>> think setting up a system account for you would be a good idea in fact,
>> don't you think? Most commands we run are actually scripted, and you
>> just enter a single line as described on the
>> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/ListWorkHowto
> 
> In principle, I'm actually against the idea of giving any kind of
> password or responsibility to somebody who hasn't already demonstrated a
> level of competence, reliability, trustworthiness and commitment to a
> particular area of work / activity. For most people in the listwork
> working group, I would be an unknown quantity though people could verify
> my bona fides by checking through the archives of the Indymedia Ireland
> (general, editorial and tech) lists.

To me, you already demonstrated a certain level of competence. :)
And about the trust factor, you can rely on me doing a little bit of
research before setting up an account. :) In fact, I just did. So you're
the admin of the ireland mailing list and your email address looks
promising in this respect, too. At least Indymedia Ireland seems to
trust you, and that should be well enough.

> However, Indymedia Ireland recently adopted a new constitution along
> with new structures to make it easier for people to become involved and
> to allow us to grow into a stronger, healthier, more productive, and
> more inclusive voluntary organisation.
> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/IMCEireInternetConstitution

I see, so the Stasi takes an important part in your collective. :)

> As part of this process, working groups were created which would
> communicate in their area using their own mailing list. Some of this is
> experimental and may not work but we think it's worth making the effort.
> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/IMCEireWorkingGroups

Good luck!

> Much of the success of this new (though elements of it have been debated
> regularly over the course of the past two years) initiative depends on
> the new email lists for the working groups being set up and running as
> soon as possible.
> 
> Accordingly, I've recently requested three new lists and three name
> changes. If I had a password, I could put these requests into practice
> straight away. :-)

That's right, it could surely help you getting this done faster.

> More importantly, I'm also happy to commit to spending once a week
> (probably weekends) resolving some of the pending Listwork requests in
> the SOS system. I've read through the Listwork How-To at
> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/ListWorkHowto and it all seems
> fairly straightforward.

Cool.

So, to go on with this, I suggest you send a roll call to the listwork
mailing list, making it say so in the subject line. And, once this
arrived, I'll propose to pass the listadmin password to you so you can
already create new lists. And, maybe a little bit later, we can setup an
account on sarai for you. Sor an SoS account, please send an email to
sos at sos.indymedia.org, saying that you'd like to be added to the
'listwork' queue, choose a username and tell them which email address
you'd like to have added to your account there. Also point them to this
email on the listwork archives (you can find its list archive URL in the
header of this email).

I should, however, state one more thing: I know that one of the main
reason why you're joining is that you'd like to have someone make the
list archives of graveyarded private mailing lists available again. I'm
probably not able to do this myself, as it likely involves hacking
mailman, and I'm not into this. So, to be fair, I need to say that I can
in no way promise someone will take on fixing this, I can only hope,
too. However, it seems more likely that someone may do it if listwork
works well in other means.

Alster
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