[New-imc] Re: IRC meeting
jaypsand at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 12 06:32:32 PDT 2004
Hi Ana, Clara, Rosa, etc.
I'm really happy that there was an IRC meeting to get new-imc more
organized. That's great! Sorry I wasn't able to make it. I've been
staying somewhere lately with really irregular e-mail contact.
Over the last year or so, maybe even two (!), I've been much less involved
in global Indymedia than I had been. Been working really hard here in
Philadelphia on a number of activist projects, and have non-Indymedia
things happening that have been inspiring as well.
Since I haven't had too much time, I've basically just taken the
responsibility of responding to all U.S.-based IMCs that fill our their
form. I send them general information and offer myself as a point of
contact until someone else from the new-imc list offers to be their
sponsor. Lately I haven't been involved at all in European or Latina
IMCs. (I've dabbled a bit in supporting African groups.)
I have not updated the WIKI with any of my information, so shame on
me! I'll start to do that.
I would be happy to continue to reply to U.S. groups, and to be a contact
for people on this list who want to sponsor an IMC but have questions about
how to do it. I'm afraid if I commit to more than that I may not be able
to live up to my promises, which is something I've been very careful lately
to take into consideration.
I'll do what I can to follow this developing discussion and follow any
decisions made to help things on new-imc run as smoothly as possible.
With much love and respect,
At 10/11/2004, you wrote:
>agree that new-imc meetings should be postponed for now... maybe... just
>a few points, about the log:
>1) in order of imporance in my opinion - but you will have to find it at
>the end of the email :-p
>2) next irc meeting: do it invite only. If people want to have a global
>discussion about how the network works, they should call for that
>general discussion in other lists, not here.
>3) About 'criteria of members': to note that, more and more, global
>tasks are done by people who are fed up with their local collectives but
>do not want to leave indymedia, therefore they get involved globally. It
>is a pattern that has not been worded so far afaik.
>4) always check before the meeting that some one is looging. If no one
>can log, go to #tech, for instance (or, may i say, #uk is a good place
>too) and ask for people with a good connection who can log, and invite
>them for this purpose.
> ><clampin> something like a newbies mutual help tool
> ><clara> i also think that we need not have a more friendly communication,
> >but i hope that that's easier once we can at least guarnetee that all new
> >collectives at least get a reply
>agree: what we need is peole from the new-imc, to get involved then in
>helping out us 'old' volunteers. If one recommendation to be a new imc
>is to get involved in process list, getting invloved in new-imc list as
>a 'learner volunteer' could be one of them. then the liaison for a
>new-imc would have the 'old' one, and the 'almost-as-newbie-as-herself'.
>But we cant get any more workload than we have, i believe.
> ><clara> - updating the wiki: the wiki is kind of messed up, and I think not
> ><clara> the sponsors of different IMCs use them.
>I am using it at the moment... might do with some clearing but i don't
>find this a necessary priority; rather maybe go to the archive and
>rescue the aspiring imcs that never got an answer? (after ahimsa drama
>is over please)
> ><rosabrasil> Well, we may postpone the meeting, but who guarantees that more
> >people will participate in the next meeting?
>wait a few days after the ESF and see how ahimsa issue evolves. I'm sure
>there will be more people, maybe me included. Also a good deal of notice
>would help, maybe 2 weeks notice.
>I got an idea: add another step once the indymedia is formed: evaluation
>of the process, so that they can give us feedback. we can even start
>asking now, on this list, on process...
> ><clara> so i would prefer not to encourage people to subscribe to it while
> >they are setting up a new collective
>i personally would prefer people not to subscribe at all unless they
>intend to help out with new-imcs.
> ><clara> i think by now i'm also a bit tired of all those people who just
> >lurk on lists without commitment
> ><clampin> thats a part of the game :)
> ><clara> no it certainly isn't
>it is on a local imc, and we tend to tolerate it. But it should not be
>and the members of a working group have the right to make their
>communication tools closed - which does not mean non-transparent. Can
>still have a closed list publicly archived.
> ><Libby> and newimc is a working group, so the list should be for people who
>And this is the 1) from general:
> If you read the log... do you realise that it is 3 women doing the work
>and talking 'to the point' while being distracted, by a some one
>non-gender-specific, who towards the end of the meeting goes...
><clampin> have a nice run, clara
>maybe new-imc is not a list to discuss gender issues but this is just
>another example of the shit some of us are given without deserving it.
>And a very telling example too.
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