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valentine eben <vally_x at lycos.com> wrote:
>  2) 
> > valentine: i don't understand why you are making this such a huge  
> > principle. i still think that working groups need to have the autonomy  
> > to decide how to work, without making this a global process issue. i  
> > know imc germany has done that in the past (unsubscribe lurkers), and  
> > i'd be surprised if others hadn't. in my view it would be fine to inform  
> > the network about this - i think we need a balance between  
> > information/transparence (NOT beaurocracy) and autonomy that enables the  
> > people to do the work they want to. there are dozens of closed mailing  
> > lists and imc-process was never bothered. this is not a political party  
> > with central committee. 
> > if however this principle will be made a rule i withdraw from this  
> > working group right away. i'd prefer people to put their energy in new  
> > imc's rather than into principles. 
>   
>  
> Anna! My point is more than one of a principle it is the fact that I've not seen any point in un 
> subscribring people in a global working group mailing lists based un the assumption that they are just 
> lurker(not expereinced and just seating around). 

we've cleaned up new-imc once 2 years ago or so ...

> In imc-Germany it was a point about security and people where unsubcribed from the site-admin-list 
> where people think sensitive issues are being discussed and not in all imc-Germany lists. 
> I think the only closed(to men) list that I know in the network is womyn list and when someone noticed 
> that they brought it up to process and a discussion was started about it. 
>  
> I'm surely struggling against having a central committee type list for newimc and rather wanting to 
> get as many people as possible in the network participate in the discussion and you sure know that 
> place is process. 

it's a working list. if you don't work why should you be there ? 
i also don't go to factories to watch the working people ... :-)

>  
> > 3) 
> > my attempts to subscribe to the list still aren't successful. while i  
> > can follow perfectly well by reading archives and answering to cc's  
> > emails ;) i'm wondering what it takes? 
>  
> Imagine that you wanted to know what exactly is  the situation with other imcs from a particular 
> continent. Check how many mails are sent here with different subject and different continent. Tell me 
> from which part of the archives you will start to read.  
> And may be answer the question why should some one go to all that problem when they can simply 
> subscribe in the lists and follow how the discussions go??. 
>  
> >  
> > Anna 
>  
> Valentine  
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