[New-imc] imc-palestine, moving forward with the list
petros at cyprus-org.net
Thu Apr 13 16:59:28 PDT 2006
I'm sending a copy of this letter to the new-imc work group, and to each
of the proposed admin/moderators jof the imc-pal email list.
Please feel free to send copies of this letter to whoever else you think
should see it. As soon as the list is functional, I will repost it there
Thank you both, George and Boud, for helping clarify where we're at with
establishing the new list.
I'd like to propose the following, and if there are any questions,
suggestions for improvement, disagreements, needs for further
explanation, I'd be happy to engage in further dialogue about any of them.
- Please consider me as an applicant to be subscribed to the new imc-pal
email list. Please enroll me as soon as the list becomes available. I'll
send a personal introduction to the list as soon as I'm enrolled.
Please consider the following proposals for the activity and orientation
of the administrator/moderators of the list:
- We should ask every single person who is requesting to be enrolled, to
send a personal introduction to the list so that we all know who is
talking to whom.
- I would strongly ask that anyone among our list applicants who has had
anything to do with previous incarnations of imc-palestine, should be
strongly encouraged to also include in their introduction something to
tell us about their role or participation or knowledge of that previous
- I would suggest that any and all list applicants be reminded to look
at the IndyMedia Principles of Unity, here:
and the page titled "New Imc - How To"
which describes the process of establishing a new imc group.
These readings will help all of us to remain within the same context
during our discussions.
- There are some general, "large", clusters of themes that need to be
discussed. We will need good moderation to navigate through those
themes. Before we even list those clusters of themes, it will be
necessary to identify some qualities of the discussion process on the list:
a. the dialogue on the list shall not be in any way a replacement
for the actual dialogue occuring in the context of organizational work
among Palestinian indymedia members, supporters, friends aimed at
establishing imc-Palestine. That organizational process and dialogue
must keep taking place among Palestinians, in Arabic. Hopefully it will
continue to solidify by a combination of person to person contact
through actual meetings, telephone contacts, and fax, email, etc,
exchanges. The imc-pal list is *~not~* a substitute for that organizing
b. for now, until palestine indymedia becomes established as a
functional local group, let's try to use the imc-pal list as a tool to
clarify through dialogue everything that needs to be clarified in a
direct exchange between our Palestinian colleagues and indymedia groups.
Primary among those groups is the new-imc work group, but there will be
occasional need to discuss with listworks, imc-process,
imc-communication, imc-finance, plus any other local/regional indymedia
groups. Let's consider that the list, imc-pal, will be a tool of open
and direct dialogue between indymedia (and its parts) and the
Palestinian individuals and organizations that are converging to
After we're done with that big first step and the group has become fully
established as a fully independent and autonomous indymedia
organization, the list can be re-oriented to other uses.
- The proposed cluster themes.
It needs to be understood that the struggle to establish and maintain a
well- organized and valid imc-Palestine group is not separate from the
struggle for the liberation of Palestine. Many of the same principles
such as democracy, autonomy, Palestinian self-determination apply in
In addition, the process of clarifying the issues in the cluster themes
below now, from the beginning, will prepare the group politically and
organizationally so that when we are ready to present the new formation
to the rest of indymedia in order to gain approval, we can be ready to
handle any objections or opposition with a solid and coherent behaviour,
good politics, clear editorial policies, mature organizational form.
Otherwise, the chaotic and (often unprincipled, often unaccountable)
kind of opposition we sometimes see mobilized among indymedia procedures
will destroy us directly at the outset. I would like to make sure that
we will be able to present a new Palestinian imc group whose case (and
application) will be unshakeable. The global liberation movement and
Palestine have a very strong need for a highly functional and coherent
Here are some of the cluster themes:
Editorial Policy issues,
Organizational affiliations, origins, etc.
There might be more clusters or issues that each of you may wish to add
to the dialogue agenda - please feel free to do that.
On the above cluster themes, subdivisions of related subjects include:
Editorial Policy issues
- we are going to need to clarify to ourselves and to others that
webpage design is not editorial policy, they are different subjects
(related of course). Indymedia is not a website, it's an organization of
radical and progressive community activists and free media journalists.
- the multiplicity of voices from Palestine - at least from all the
sectors of society involved in the progressive and radical community -
needs to be served as a whole by indymedia. We'll need to find ways to
ensure that they are all given access to be channelled through
indymedia. Some of the individuals and organizations that are involved
at this level, already have some sort of orientation (editorial
direction); we need to find ways to expand that.
- the reality in Palestine is so complex and highly charged that we
can't have simplistic solutions; if the editorial policy that becomes
finalized is, or appears to be, exclusive of some points of view or
aspects of reality, we're going to have to re-examine everything until
we can ensure a polyphony.
Organizational affiliations, origins, etc.
- we will need to guide the organizational efforts of the very near
future to include as many more Palestinian organizations, wings,
tendencies, individuals active within the radical and progressive
community as possible, so that imc Palestine will not become a monopoly
or a franchise solely in any single pair of hands.
- we are still going to have those dialogues about relationships between
imc-Palestine and groups with employees. Also, about affiliations with
other local and international organizations. Everyone who is invited to
participate by becoming a member, friend, ally, or even just as a
reader, will need to have access to enough transparent information about
all of us, in order to be able to evaluate who we are and what we do.
- everything that applies in the above clusters, applies to politics.
Unfortunately, the terms (words, concepts) we use in politics might be
difficult sometimes to use in a dialogue without "pushing the buttons"
of aggravation, but we're going to have to find a way to do this with
politeness, pleasantly, and consciously. The political terms (words,
concepts, ideas, principles) that end up being the common ground of
imc-Palestine will have to be as inclusive as possible. We'll need to
find ways to improve on this.
Well, that's all for now. I hope we'll find warm and positive ways to
overcome a common reluctance discuss these themes, and find ways to
enjoy building this organization together.
I look forward to your thoughts,
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