[New-imc] new-imc member Petros unsubscribed from the IMC-Palestine mailing list?
petros at cyprus-org.net
Sun Jul 16 17:17:15 PDT 2006
I have just received a message (apparently) sent by the admins of the
imc-palestine email list. It states that I have been unsubscribed from
the list. Copy of the notice below.
I have checked the originating IP address and it seems authentic, but I
can't really claim to be an authority in spotting faked emails - I have
the Full Headers if anyone wants to look into tracing this.
(I mention this because in the past, many of us who have worked on
Palestine issues have been targeted by operations involving fake emails
originating from Mossad and other "No Such Agencies" appearing to be
mailed either from us or to us.)
I would like to state this for the record:
- I did not request to be unsubscribed from the Palestine imc list.
- I was not notified by any administrator, moderator, list member, or
reader of the list about my writing or my letters being offensive,
violating any principles of protocol, or even violating simple courtesy
- I have not exchanged (received or sent) any private communication with
anyone about this or about that list in general.
- I am aware that the server does not burp and send these letters by
accident to anyone; actually it is technically impossible for an
accident like this to occur.
- When we helped to re-establish the imc-palestine recently, we made
sure that the new administrators would be Palestinian. It was around
midnight in Palestine when this administrative action was taken. I have
a hard time believing that one of our colleagues there kept up by
Israeli tank shells decided to do this without any provocation from me.
- Of course, it may be an action by someone outside of Palestine. Which
is ok too, if the list is still in Palestinian hands. (I'm beginning to
have severe doubts about this.)
If there was an administrative decision by one or more of our future
colleagues of the new Palestinian formation, this will generate even
more questions, such as:
1. What was the intended effect of this action on the relationship
between the new-imc work group and the candidate imc-palestine group?
2. Was it a decision by the entire collective?
3. Was it a decision by the entire collective to just do this and to not
even take responsibility?
2. How is this escalation going to be interpreted in the current context
The climate and context I refer to is this: right now on that email
list, there is a hell of angry letters and accusations being thrown
around (none from me). The relationship between the new-imc work group
with the new Palestine imc group that's been emerging in the hope of
refreshing imc-Palestine, has been poisoned by a conscious campaign of
rumours, whispers, a twisting of meanings and misinterpretations.
This campaign took place in previous weeks, in private, without anyone
of us knowing or being informed, resulting in a storm of confused and
angry letters being published on that list in the last few days (none by
Please have a look at those letters. And please look at previous letters
from June and May. You will see that nothing else explains the torrent
of anger except conscious manipulations of our (understandably)
vulnerable colleagues in Palestine, through the use of clever, age-old
techniques of personal power.
It's the same thing that happened to the imc-othello Collective, if you
remember, a while back. I'll send a reminder of the details in a
The letter from the list administrators is below.
Again, I'm not going to do of say anything else for a while about this
until we (new-imc) have a chance to either give me some critique, or a
vote of confidence, or directions on how to proceed, or at least until
we have a chance to discuss collectively the direction we are taking in
our relationship with our colleagues from Palestine.
No rush. Please take your time to study this problem.
Subject: You have been unsubscribed from the IMC-Palestine mailing list
From: imc-palestine-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
To: petros at cyprus-org.net
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006
You have opted out of IMC-Palestine list. You will recieve no more
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Thank you, List Admins
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