[New-imc] Fw: Re: palestine indymedia - proposed irc meeting

Tue Mar 28 05:53:10 PST 2006

Dear all , am not seen any palestinian sounds yet eccept Goug who are 
intersting and , we have to9 meet if u intersting ,  , for internet u cant 
propose for 29th only , imc is a good and innatitaive issues it should take 
its time so , am not avaliable on line (internet , even lobnat and the other 
) just at 4 pm we has it so , just few and internationl voice will rise 
herfor this issuses ,, so we have to take all the time for the whole proces 
that we discuss for imc-palestine

thanks

>From: sing and dance <jenka at indymedia.org>
>To: listwork at lists.indymedia.org, 
>new-imc at lists.indymedia.org,imc-palestine at lists.indymedia.org, CC: 
>kidar194 at hotmail.com, lubnabandak at hotmail.com,niclae at eudoramail.com, 
>volorondinellaa at yahoo.it, abunimir at yahoo.com,boud at riseup.net, 
>sami at holylandtrust.org, beitsahour2000 at hotmail.com
>Subject: Fw: Re: [New-imc] palestine indymedia - proposed irc meeting
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:50:48 +0100
>
>Dear listwork:
>
>I would like to propose the re-formation of the imc-palestine mailing list.
>
>for list moderators, may i propose one each from the two main groups in 
>palestine submitting the proposal (IMEMC and the Palestine News Network), 
>and one from the indymedia network?
>
>the current imc-palestine list has been dead since early 2003.  I am cc'ing 
>the former admins of that list on this message.
>
>Can I propose a deadline of March 29th for this decision? (as per boud's 
>suggestion in the email below)
>
>we have an irc meeting planned to discuss imc-palestine for 8 pm Palestine 
>time (GMT +2) on wed. march 29th
>
>thank you
>jenka
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:09:20 +0200 (CEST)
>From: boud <boud at riseup.net>
>To: new-imc at lists.indymedia.org
>Cc: sing and dance <jenka at indymedia.org>
>Subject: Re: [New-imc] palestine indymedia - proposed irc meeting
>
>
>hi jenka, all
>
>On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, sing and dance wrote:
>
> > ok....
> > who should we talk to about getting this list?
>
>https://docs.indymedia.org
>- look in lefthand column or centre column for "Tech", then "listwork"
>- click on "listwork" - you'll find
>https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/ListworkWorkingGroup
>
> >  i tried to write to the list admins that are listed in the
> > palestine-imc list description when i was seeking info on the
> > current status of palestine-imc a month or so ago.  there were four,
> > i believe, and a couple fo the emails bounced, the others didn't
> > write back.
>
>i suggest writing to them publicly with a cc to new-imc and give them
>a reasonable deadline (3 days? after all, the previous imc has been
>inactive for something like a year or so, so they can hardly
>complain).
>
>If they don't respond, then IMHO it should be possible to have
>consensus on new-imc for a choice of "neutral" admins.
>
>jenka, petros: can you please propose some names (emails) of people
>mutually acceptable as admins for the imc-palestine mailing list?
>
>After there is consensus on new-imc, i would expect that an email
>to   listwork at indymedia org   should be enough - but listwork will
>most likely check the new-imc archives to see if there is consensus here.
>
> > i do want the process to be inclusive....i just don't want to get
> > caught in a whole web of indymedia process and tie this thing up for
> > months (as i have seen happen in the past)....
>
>Most new imc groups *do* take months to get organised. Non-hierarchical
>process is something new for most of us - good intentions are not
>enough, learning new skills and habits is also necessary if we want
>to produce non-hierarchical, non-authoritarian structures.
>
> > the ppl here are overworked, trying to post dozens of incidents and
> > articles every day from the ground....and i too, am overworked here,
> > just in trying to maintain the site, solve tech issues, ward off
> > attacks, edit and cover events....  the folks who want to do this
> > have been meeting, talking, planning....  so....as you and petros
> > both say...
>
> >> "If a new Palestine-imc is to be created, in order to survive and serve
> >> its mission, it will have to be as independent from the rest of
> >> indymedia as possible, as immune to our weaknesses as possible, and as
> >> self-sufficient as possible. That's why [petros has] proposed a 
>dialogue, in
> >> order to help with the process of self-organization without us getting
> >> in the way, while we help to keep out others from getting in the way as
> >> well."
>
>Since people have been meeting, talking, planning, it should not be
>difficult for them to go through the process, including discussing
>petros' concerns one-by-one on the imc-palestine list once it is
>reopened.
>
><snip>
>
>pozdr
>boud (imc-pl-torun)
>
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