[New-imc] [EN] [SP] Re: [Imc-aotearoa-ed] Deadline for objections to NZ indymedia protest page has passed

Sat Oct 14 01:48:05 PDT 2006

Re: http://pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia/pages/NZ-Aotearoa-racism.htm

Not one factual rebuttal from asher - just further insults and bias from NZ imc - the people who hosted images of dead and battered Aboriginal people our collective worked with and cared about - to attack, provoke and distress our people

http://www.pariahnt.org/onemiledam/index.htm

There is a question mark after - "No                    Maori people allowed?"

The question remains unanswered - are Maori people members of any NZ collectives?

What asher calls "spamming" is how we managed to get NZ's race/hate posts removed. 

We call it drawing attention to injustices.

darwin indymedia received hundreds of hate posts daily for months - (as well as sydney and NZ's race/hate campaigns) - so spare us your hysterics. The campaign to destroy our collective has been hosted on Oz indymedia for years. 

We object to the use of Oz indymedia as a vehicle for misinformation and racism against activists.

"Mick is a c__t" was yet another of the many newsworthy posts attacking me personally on NZ indymedia  - a belief that asher continues to endorse with this insulting, accusatory whitewash

"Any collective wishing to call itself Darwin Indymedia would therefore require, as part of it's constitution, to exclude this individual (mick lambe) and would automatically forfeit it's place as an IMC if he were ever to become a member." [1] Andrew Lowenthal melbourne "indymedia powers-that-be"

http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/09/123025.php

darwin imc have never posted/hosted culturally inappropriate images with hate captions and threads against the NZ imc - why do that to us?

We will not credit any accusations or decisions by an imc that has demonstrated its bias and "utter contempt" for our collective in such a disrespectful manner

asher's inability to refute a single fact is damning

http://pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia/pages/NZ-Aotearoa-racism.htm

as is his inability to explain such biased and racist behaviour - on a site that makes this claim

             "The Aotearoa IMC is a volunteer, non-corporate effort
             to provide news coverage and media resources to the disempowered"

Yeah sure...

...unltil NZ imc see an opportunity to attack a collective comprised of Aboriginal people (third of the pop' here) and anti-racism activists  in Darwin

darwin imc has always featured grassroots local events usually through participation and actions - and were operating out of an Aboriginal community when these race/hate campaigns began

http://www.pariahnt.org/onemiledam/index.htm

sydney hosted many similar race/hate articles for months as news articles and defended their racism until we "spammed" our protests

http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2005/11/98524.php

our site is down (second one gone) - hundreds of human rights articles are off the www - we have had no domain for two years 

your network refuses to explain what our collective have done - to deserve such punishment - or by what process our domain was seized, returned and seized again 

we have a right to know of what we are accused 

Oz indymedia continues to host misinformation and other Ed Pol breaching attacks that go back years - while censoring any criticism of their racism, autocracy and censorship 

http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/09/123025.php

- save for adelaide imc

that is a hypocritical practice - aimed at whitewashing Oz indymedia's use as a vehicle to attack an affilliated collective - darwin indymedia

in the lowest and most culturally disrespectful manner

 mick

http://www.pariahnt.org/images/Family.jpg

Better a pariah - than a liar
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Asher <ashergoldman at gmail.com> wrote: [EN] (El español sigue, traducción automática)

Hi all,

Speaking for Aotearoa Indymedia:

This is just a quick note to clarify. Contrary to Mick's assertion, the Aotearoa Indymedia editorial collective is most certainly not happy with Mick's completely false claim that Maori are not allowed on Aotearoa Indymedia - to the contrary, Aotearoa Indymedia is (slowly) moving towards being a bilingual (English and Te Reo Maori) Indymedia and we write extensively on the struggle for Tino Rangatiratanga (Maori self-determination). 

Speaking for myself:

I would also make a request to Mick to please stop spamming the Aotearoa Indymedia newswire with abuse aimed at both the Aotearoa Indymedia editorial collective and other Oceania-based Indymedia collectives and individual members of those collectives. The Aotearoa Indymedia editorial collective has decided to delete all posts & comments related to Darwin/Arafura/Mick et al and further attempts to post such after being informed is nothing less than a sign of utter contempt for our collective and it's decisions. 

Mick has consistently slandered individuals and entire collectives for far too long. He seems to be quite willing to play various individuals/collectives off against each other, and unfortunately, too many people seem to get dragged in - this is not surprising, as it is hard enough for me to understand the situation having met many of the people involved, I cannot imagine how confusing it must be from a totally different perspective! 

Love & Revolution,
Asher
Aotearoa Indymedia Editorial Collective
Climate Indymedia Editorial Collective

[SP] (apologías por la traducción automática)

Hola,

Discurso para Aotearoa Indymedia: 

Esto es justo una nota rápida a clarificar. A la aserción de Mick del contrario, el colectivo editorial de Aotearoa Indymedia no es lo más ciertamente posible feliz con la demanda totalmente falsa de Mick que Maorí se prohiben en Aotearoa Indymedia - por el contrario, Aotearoa Indymedia (lentamente) se está moviendo hacia ser (inglés y Te Reo Maorí) un Indymedia bilingüe y escribimos extensivamente en la lucha para Tino Rangatiratanga (autodeterminación Maorí).

Discurso para me:

También haría una petición a Mick de satisfacer el Spamming de la parada que el newswire de Aotearoa Indymedia con abuso tuvo como objetivo el colectivo editorial de Aotearoa Indymedia y otro Oceani'a-baso' a los collectives de Indymedia y a miembros individuales de esos collectives. El colectivo editorial de Aotearoa Indymedia ha decidido a suprimir todos los postes y comentarios relacionados con Darwin/Arafura/Mick et el al y procura más lejos fijar tales después de ser informado no es nada menos que una muestra del desprecio completo para nuestro colectivo y ella es decisiones.

Mick tiene slandered constantemente individuos y los collectives enteros para lejos demasiado largo. ¡Él se parece estar absolutamente dispuesto a jugar vario individuals/collectives apagado cara a cara, y desafortunadamente, mucha gente se parece también conseguir arrastrada adentro - esto no está sorprendiendo, como está difícilmente bastante para que entienda la situación que satisface a muchas de la gente implicada, yo no puede imaginarse cómo la confusión de ella debe ser de una perspectiva totalmente diversa!

Amor Y Revolución,
Asher
Aotearoa Indymedia Colectivo Editorial
Climate Indymedia Colectivo Editorial

 On 10/10/06, mick lambe PARIAH <pariahnt at yahoo.com> wrote: Thank you for supporting this iniative - obviously I'm very pleased you all agree with the facts and internal logic   - your support will be acknowledged

 http://pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia/pages/NZ-Aotearoa-racism.htm

Hopefully NZ imc will do a feature

I have contacted NZ imc - they too seem happy with my work as there have been no objections

I see we are censored fron 'imc-process' as well - and have yet to receive a reply as to why perth imc had the right to dictate to our collective  

and give our site to people we expelled - people who had recently threatened and abused us at our home (admitted)

because we refused to obey perth imc's dictates

Has anyone actually read the POU? - see 'autonomy' - (opposite to the "indymedia powers-that-be" heirarchy) 

 - 'marginalised' (what the Oz imc are doing to Aboriginal people)  

 - 'Open Publishing' (which only seems to apply to the years of hate/race posts hosted by the Oz imc against activists)

 - or the indymedia wiki pages about the creation of hostile collectives to harm an established imc? 

I'll get the other Oz imc pages up when I can - enormous ammount of race/hate posts to sift through - years of them - hosted by people who censor any dissent about their autocracy

Better a pariah - than a liar 

mick - DIMC
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