[New-imc] Urgenet: Activity on imc-process re our proposal

boud boud at riseup.net
Sat Oct 21 05:19:51 PDT 2006


hi new-imc,

i'm rather against extending the deadline, for the following reasons:

(1) It's difficult for new-imc to make a super-rapid (12 hours or so)
consensus decision on extending the deadline.

(2) Extending the deadline would not help in terms of process, since:

(2a) Hopefully the french speaking imc's will come up with something
creative and hopefully beyond the original new-imc proposal,
(e.g. dealing with suggestions for "new-imc process 2.0") in which
case it doesn't matter that the original proposal was blocked, since
any modification requires a new proposal for a consensus test.

(2b) Even if the (fr)-euro-imc's come up with an exactly identical
proposal to the one we made, then nothing stops them proposing it
again - new-imc does not hold (c) copyright to the proposal.

IMHO the simplest is to let the present version of the present proposal
be blocked, so at least this step is clear and finished. After that,
we can think of what to do next.

solidarity
boud



On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, John Milton wrote:

> Hi folks:
>
> With my "Liason to imc process" hat on:
>
> IMC Paris has sent this:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2006-October/1020-zl.html
> (full text below)
>
> Seems they are asking for a deadline extension until "about" Nov 20th,
> else they will block the proposal.
>
> Since the current deadline is in about 2 days this requires a rapid
> response from us...
>
> ----------------------------------
> [EN]
>
> Hi everybody :-)
>
> About the proposal we decided to : block this proposal if the sentence
> is not removed, but.
>
> We propose to extend the deadline to a date after the french speaking
> imc collective meeting (10, 11 and 12 november). Then, about a week
> after, around the 20th of november.
>
>  From the IMC indymedia Paris/Île-de-France collective by a bad human
> translation.
>
> [ES]
>
> Hola cada uno:-)
>
> Sobre la oferta decidimos: bloquee esta oferta si la oración no es
> quitada, pero.
>
> Proponemos de ampliar la fecha límite a una fecha después de la
> reunión de los CMI que habla francés (10, el 11 y 12 de noviembre).
> Entonces, aproximadamente una semana después, alrededor el 20 de
> noviembre.
>
> CMI indymedia Paris / Île-de-France
>
> [FR]
>
> Salut tout le monde :-)
>
> Sur la proposition, nous avons décidé de : bloquer la proposition si
> la phrase n'était pas retirée, mais.
>
> Nous proposons d'étendre la deadline ? une date ultérieure aux réunion
> francophone (10, 11 et 12 novembre). Alors, apr?s une semaine, vers le
> 20 novembre.
>
> CMI indymedia Paris / Île-de-France
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