[New-imc] I feel Petros has violated the trust of this group
libertinus at riseup.net
Tue Sep 5 17:56:33 PDT 2006
Hi, I new in this list but not at Indymedia. I tray to read all your
email but I dont take part of discuss that I'm not there from the
Me english not very good, but I tray hard to explain me like cheroke. Hao!
I think the problem with Petros (hi Pretros!) it that he expose too
much in the globals lists, Not only here. He dont give time to process
Petros and some others start writing like dialog between them and
don't give time for others participation.
Take your time, not every body read well english, not every body are
all the day in internet. Go to the street catch the air!.
Petros expose him too much, and some body like me, dont like see lots
of emails of the same person in all the globals lists, taking part of
all things that happen at indymedia.
Petros, I have to say that for me is imposible to think that behind
you exist a collective. Now i see a new member in process list from
Cyprus. That great!
I will not take part of oceania problems, I just ask for time for
others people take part of the globals issues.
Well, I have to make the dinner, so, dont worry be happy
fuck IMC urbana.
arriba los que luchan!
Quoting nick <sarsnic at gmail.com>:
> Ok, good point John, I will try to provide the history of what
> happened here and explain why it was problematic for me.
> First Petros said this:
>> There is already a formal procedure going on with the new-imc group
> working to resolve the problems. Any decision of this kind will torpedo
> the possibility of new-imc ever having any credibility to determine
> situations within its jurisdiction.
> I responded:
>> I think Petros has appeared to speak on behalf of the new-imc group and that
> this is inappropriate as we have had NO discussion about this latest
> proposal at all.
> But then he ignored my concern, didn't retract anything or apologize,
> and did it again and with even more vehement language:
>> The Proposal is an interference and a violation of the currently
> active procedure of the new-imc work group: new-imc is already
> processing the case of imc-darwin.
> He called a procedure "ours" when it was not, he claimed we have
> "jurisdiction" where we do not, he called "our" procedures "formal"
> when they were not, and he describes the threat to his procedures as a
> "torpedo," a "violation" and an "interference," without any consent,
> authorization or even a discussion about doing so with the group.
> On 9/5/06, John Milton <john at johnmilton.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Nick, and others:
>> Nick when you say "Speaking on behalf of the group without explicit
>> authorization is a GRAVE violation of the trust of the group"
>> Well, often times yes, but it's far from clear to me that Petros has
>> done that, as opposed to say expressing his own opinion or the opion of
>> some other group for which he had a mandate to speak. Could you please
>> provide a cite (hyperlink would be best) for this quote so we can
>> consider it in context?
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