[New-imc] Request for deadline extension on Proposal

[nick]

Yes,  Maybe Joe doesn't have as much computer access as us nerds or
maybe English is a 2nd language for him and I think we should try to
be inclusive to his participation.

On 9/16/06, John Milton <john at johnmilton.ca> wrote:
> Hi folks:
>
> In his post (copied below) Joe seems to me to go beyond simply
> commenting on the proposal, and raises what sounds like a fairly deep
> rooted objection.
>
> While he does not say that he is blocking I think it would be really
> good if we could have what time is necessary to work with him on this.
> Nick has made some comments to his post, and I have echoed those, and
> added some things, in the form of direct questions.
>
> So, I'd like to ask that we suspend the deadline on the consensus test
> for now to allow us to (hopefully) hear back from Joe and work with him
> on this.
>
> Are folks here o.k. with that?
>
> joe wrote:
> > [français ci-dessous]
> >
> > [en]
> >
> > Hello New-Imc
> >
> > This is not in the uses that the New-Imc group sign a text
> > collectively. Certainly, we all share the same goal (the integration
> > of news IMCs). But the nature of our work (the sponsoring) does not
> > enable us to have a common vision on the methods used by such or such
> > sponsors with suc or such IMC.
> >
> > The only decision that we have collectively to provide for IMC-Process
> > is the "validity" of the documents (mission statement, charte,…)
> > provided by an IMC (the step 3; the New-imc procedure).
> >
> > The text concerning the collectives IMC-Arafura & IMC-Darwin must
> > remain under the responsability of the sponsors involved in this
> > integrations (and why not some others volonteers supporting the
> > request). It will not have less weight or veracity for that.
> >
> > To sign this text collectively would give a bad signal. Namely that
> > the work of the New-Imc volunteers would be centralized.
> >
> > greeting
> >
> > joe
> >
> > [fr]
> >
> > salut New-Imc
> >
> > Il n'est pas dans les usages que le groupe New-Imc signe des textes
> > collectivement. Evidemment, nous partageons toutes et tous le même
> > but (l'intégration de nouveaux IMCs). Mais la nature même de notre
> > travail (le parrainage) ne nous permets pas d'avoir une vision
> > commune sur les méthodes utilisés par tel ou tel parrain pour tel ou
> > tel IMC.
> >
> > La seule décision que nous ayons a prendre collectivement est la
> > "validité" des documents (énoncé de mission, charte) fournis par un
> > MIC (étape 3; la procédure new-imc).
> >
> > Le texte concernant les collectifs IMC-Arafura & IMC-Darwin doit
> > rester sous la responsabilité des parrains engagés dans l'intégration
> > (et pourquoi pas d'autres volontaires voulant soutenir la requête).
> > Ca ne donnera pas moins de poids ou véracité pour la cause.
> >
> > Signer un texte collectivement donnerait un mauvais signal. Celui que
> > le travail des volontaires New-Imc serait centralisé.
>
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