[New-imc] (en) Re: (fr)(en) DARWIN/ARAFURA PROPOSAL (v1.2) internal new-imc DEADLINE: Sun 17.09.2006 22:00 UTC

[boud]

hi john, all,

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, John Milton wrote:

> So, I think we are still "on track" with 1.2 /1.3
>
> I would not stand in the way of 1.3, but given that the list of names at
> the bottom does not seem to be necessary to speak to Joe's concern I'd
> rather see it withdrawn and us stay with 1.2 for the following reasons:
>
> - There are people who have posted to the threads on the various draft
> proposals who are not listed in 1.3 as having "contributed". These seems
> to me to make that list both inaccurate and unfair to the unnamed folks.
> To change "contributed" to "activly supported" or something like that
> might make this more accurate, but I would _not_ like to see that
> happen, as it starts to look like some sort of rough vote, which I
> really don't think is in accord with what we want our process here to be.
>
> - Those on this list who have not posted have also, in the passive sense
> , "contribited". Though we don't know what to read from their silence
> they are all never the less "here", and we should remember that.
>
> - The history of who has been involved and in what ways is available on
> the open archives of this list to any who are interested, as such the
> list in 1.3 seems redundant.

Well, i agree that all of these are quite important concerns - but 
i was looking for something that would obtain consensus...  Anyway,
in version 1.4, i've removed the signatures.

> - We were in the middle of a consensus test on 1.2 when 1.3 was tabled.
> In general I think this is poor process as it has the potential for
> adding confusion as to what people are being asked to consense to. (See
> the Darwin disaffiliation proposal on "imc process" for a recent example
> of such confusion).

This is why i reset the deadline.

> Anyway, whichever way we go I support the new Tuesday deadline, as any
> change during a consensus test should always reset the deadline.

[i would say "any significant change" rather than "any change". There
could, in principle, be changes which are clearly minor and
uncontroversial.]

Anyway, version 1.4 is here, with a new deadline of Wednesday 13:30 UTC:

http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2006-September/0917-t9.html


solidarity
boud