[New-imc] an application from Indycymru]
ac.thomas at ntlworld.com
Mon Sep 11 16:25:02 PDT 2006
I have just sent this off in the approved form. A certificate notice
appeared, then after a long digestion the form re-appeared blank.
There was no notice that it had been sent successfully.
New IMC Application
Proposed IMC Name (required): Indycymru
Proposed Indymedia URL (required):http://www.indycymru.org.uk
Current URL (if any): Was as above before site sabotaged.
Country: Cymru (Wales)
Contact Name (required): Ilyan Thomas
Email (required): ac.thomas at ntlworld.com
Technical Contact Name: Ilyan
Wales in the World
the Survival of Earthlife
Is this Special Branch asking? We would be happier saying what groups we support, IWW, Earth First! - founded
at one of their Gatherings, Rising Tide, Greenpeace, The 1911 Unofficial Reform Committee of the South Wales Miners' Federation.
>Please write an introductory statement about why you want to participate
>in the Indymedia Network.
Indycymru was brought into existence to become an indymedia about four
years ago. When there were enough active editors in communication this
was sent off as an application to new-imc back in March. There was no
reply, now we are told we have to apply in an approved format. That
was done, but the software lost the application and it seems it was not
delivered. Here is the application that was sent:
"Indycymru has given support to many small Nations struggling for the
independence necessary for their survival. And carries criticisms of
Civilisation and everything else including Religions. But it is an open
space for everybody. This means that anyone can read it, and everyone
can register to access it to submit news or opinion, or place comment to
already placed ones. There is no censorship except for
criminal,libel,commercial advertising, obscenity and personal attacks,
and some of those might be carried if interesting and instructive, or if
submitters make big enough fools of themselves. It is intended that
everything else will be posted and (caustically?) "casuistically
discussed if we think it's racist, sexist or any other thing we
particularly dislike. If you chose conformity to walk through life,
then don't visit us."
[What is is the quotation marks is from Portugal's original statement]
The reason that 'register' is inserted there is because Portugal failed
to survive on an unregistered basis. On Indycymru anyone can register,
we have open registration, and have been going for years.
There are minor nitpicking disagreement about interpretation of words
which do not really reject the Principles of Unity as long as there is
unity about there being diversity rather than conformity.
Detailed nitpicks are:
the interpretation of open publishing in para 4. Indycymru has been
denounced from within UKindy for not having open publishing despite the
fact that virtually everything submitted here, and quite a lot of what
has been hidden on UKindy, has been published here. (At the August EF!
indymedia workshop an IMCer did not like that. But stuff is hidden
because editors do not see its relevance, and other stuff really needs
to be discussed. those we nicked from UKindy.)
In 6 everyone is required to be in agreement in consensus Editorial
decision making. Several indycymru Editors have substantial
disagreements with other Editors. No one has been expelled.
Production continued. Much of the best work was provoked by hostile
comments. A flourishing diversity is possible, and likely better than
In 10 it says 'no discrimination, perhaps it is jumping the gun there
because it does not say 'based on Nationality' if a web site has
pretensions to being a National site, a majority of members should be
drawn from that Nation. There are plenty of Welsh people of Black,
Asian, European, and Chinese origin who fit that, so my supposing
conflict may be unreal, note The Principles have it right (in brackets)
in the last line below.
If that is acceptable to IMCs, then there is no argument with these
PRINCIPLES OF UNITY below.
1. The Independent Media Center Network (IMCN) is based upon principles
of equality, decentralization and local autonomy. The IMCN is not
derived from a centralized bureaucratic process, but from the
self-organization of autonomous collectives that recognize the
importance in developing a union of networks.
2. All IMC's consider open exchange of and open access to information a
prerequisite to the building of a more free and just society.
[3. All IMC's respect the right of activists who choose not to be
photographed or filmed.]
4. All IMC's, based upon the trust of their contributors and readers,
shall utilize open web based publishing, allowing individuals, groups
and organizations to express their views, anonymously if desired. **see
appendix: Open Publishing document --> still in proposal phase, at this
5. The IMC Network and all local IMC collectives shall be not-for-profit.
6. All IMC's recognize the importance of process to social change and
are committed to the development of non-hierarchical and
anti-authoritarian relationships, from interpersonal relationships to
group dynamics. Therefore, shall organize themselves collectively and
be committed to the principle of consensus decision making and the
development of a direct, participatory democratic process] that is
transparent to its membership.
7. [All IMC's recognize that a prerequisite for participation in the
decision making process of each local group is the contribution of an
individual's labor to the group.]
8. All IMC's are committed to caring for one another and our respective
communities both collectively and as individuals and will promote the
sharing of resources including knowledge, skills and equipment.
9. All IMC's shall be committed to the use of free source code,
whenever possible, in order to develop the digital infrastructure, and
to increase the independence of the network by not relying on
10. All IMC's shall be committed to the principle of human equality,
and shall not discriminate, including discrimination based upon race,
gender, age, class or sexual orientation. Recognizing the vast cultural
traditions within the network, we are committed to building [diversity]
within our localities."
>What kind of resources can you contribute, in terms of
>server/bandwidth/technical and organizing skills?
Presently a Windows 2000 Athlon, Linux boxes and broadband is all, if
the professional website we were on is excluded. Are exploring the World.
>What kind of outreach have you done to bring together a diverse group of
Been to lots of different meetings.
>How does the makeup of your collective reflect the diversity of the
>local community (e.g. in relation to gender-, sexual-, spiritual-,
Protestant, Catholic, Pagan, and Atheist. Workers, Pensioners,
Capitalists, Claimants, and Beggars. A Deaf who may be losing sight. We
do not inquire into what might be personal unless a relevant problem is
<If your group currently does not represent the diversity of the local
>community, particularly in relation to groups who are underrepresented
>in mainstream society and denied access to vehicles of expression, what
>steps will be taken to address this on an ongoing basis?
Anyone can join. Should we be arm twisting?
>What steps will be taken to involve individuals in workfields new to
>them? What measures will be taken to overcome a gendered work division?
Anyone can do whatever, Should coercion be used to break a
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