[New-imc] PROPOSAL Darwin/Arafura and new-imc (fr)(en) Deadline 2006.10.11

Fri Sep 29 14:38:30 PDT 2006

I think Toya's English is alot better than your Portuguese :)

On 9/29/06, John Milton <john at johnmilton.ca> wrote:
> Hi toya:
> here is a rough translation which may be of use to you...
>
> PROPOSTA a respeito de Darwin/Arafura e novo-imc
> nós pedimos IMCN, com suas ligações no "imc-processo," para instruir
> novo-imc  a respeito do status da afiliação destes grupos.  Esta
> indicação seguindo  da compreensão foi a aproximação de de facto
> daqueles membros novos-imc  trabalhando com estes grupos, e nós ESTAMOS
> PROPONDO agora fazer-lhe o oficial  se passar o consenso no imc-processo
> pela rede com o seu  ligações dos collectives do local imc.  Se não, a
> seguir nós pedimos  um esclarecimento mais adicional de como nós devemos
> proseguir.
>
> INDICAÇÃO DA COMPREENSÃO A RESPEITO DE ARAFURA & DE DARWIN IMC:
> 1) Esta indicação concerne o IMC Darwin coletivo, que começaram o seu
> "imc novo" o processo em maio 2004 [1] e o cujo a sociedade nos meios de
> Indy  a rede Center (IMCN) foi aceitada pelo consenso de "IMC process"
> em julho  2004 [2].
>
> 2) Alguma hora em seguida que está sendo aprovada este grupo
> experimentou um conflito severo interno. Dois collectives emergiram
> deste, ambo ter agora "o status do candidato novo" com o "Novo-imc".
> Suas listas do email são aqui:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-darwin
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-arafura
>
> 3) O grupo de funcionamento novo-imc tem trabalhado junto com ambos de
> eles para o objetivo comum de cada uma deles que está sendo proposto por
> "Novo-imc" "imc-processo" como collectives do membro do IMCN.
>
> 4) O IMC Darwin que coletivo aceitado na sociedade de IMCN em 2004 era
> nunca formalmente "disaffiliated" do IMCN no "imc-processo". Entretanto,
> nós estamos agindo com a compreensão de que - neste momento - nenhumas
> os collectives com que "novo-imc" está trabalhando agora devem ser
> consideradas affiliated, ou temos o uso daquelas coisas que são
> contingent em cima de completamente sociedade no IMCN (como, por
> exemplo, o uso de a  > Domain Name de ".indymedia.org" para seus Web
> site).  Nós esperamos que no futuro, ambos os grupos se tornem
> affiliated (ver o ponto 3).
>
> LIGAÇÕES:  [1]
> http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/new-imc/2004-May/005125.html
> [2]http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-July/0712-xa.html
>
>
>
> toya at riseup.net wrote:
> > hi i would like to ask to extend the deadline because the proposal will
> > have to be translated to portugueses so i can get a feed back from
> > imc-brasil, i still dont know if they (the network) will need more time to
> > discuss it or not (after the translation is done) i will send the proposal
> > to the pt translation list today and ask if anyone can translate it.
> > i will update the list when i have some feedback from the brasil network.
> > thank you
> > toya
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hello / Bonjour:
> >>(en)
> >>I bring this PROPOSAL from "New imc" for consensus test here with a
> >>deadline of October 11, 2006 20:30 UTC
> >>
> >>(fr)
> >>J'apporte cette PROPOSITION de "New imc" pour l'essai de consensus ici
> >>avec une date-limite octobre 11, 2006 UTC 20:30
> >>
> >>######################################################################
> >>(fr)+(en)
> >>
> >>(fr)
> >>PROPOSITION au sujet de Darwin/Arafura et new-imc
> >>
> >>Nous prions au Réseau des CMI, à travers ses liaisons sur «imc-process
> >>», de nous informer quel est le statut d'affiliation de ces groupes. La
> >>déclaration de compréhension mutuelle présente l'approche de facto des
> >>membres de new-imc qui travaillent avec ces groupes, et nous PROPOSONS
> >>qu'elle soit officialisée si elle est acceptée par consensus sur
> >>imc-process par le réseau à travers les liaisons des collectifs locaux.
> >>Dans le cas contraire, nous demandons une clarification de ce que nous
> >>devrions faire par la suite.
> >>
> >>DÉCLARATION DE COMPRÉHENSION MUTUELLE CONCERNANT LES CMI ARAFURA ET
> >>DARWIN :
> >>
> >>1) Le thème de cet énoncé est le collectif CMI Darwin, qui a commencé
> >>son processus « new imc » en mai 2004 [1] et dont l'appartenance au
> >>Réseau des CMI (RCMI) a été accepté par consensus de « IMC process » en
> >>juillet 2004 [2].
> >>
> >>2) Un certain temps après sa reconnaissance par « imc-process », ce
> >>groupe a subi un conflit interne sévère. Deux collectifs en sont sortis,
> >>tous les deux ayant maintenant le statut « nouveau candidat » dans les
> >>yeux de « new-imc ». Leur listes de discussion se trouvent ici :
> >>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-darwin
> >>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-arafura
> >>
> >>3) Le groupe de travail new-imc travaille avec tous les deux vers le but
> >>commun de la proposition des deux groupes par « new-imc » à «
> >>imc-process » en tant que collectifs membres du RCMI.
> >>
> >>4) Le collectif CMI Darwin accepté en tant que membre du RCMI en 2004
> >>n'a jamais été formellement « désaffilié » du RCMI sur « imc-process».
> >>Pourtant, nous agissons actuellement sous l'idée que - en ce moment -
> >>aucun des deux collectifs avec lequels « new-imc » travaille
> >>actuellement ne devraient être traités comme affiliés, ni avoir usage
> >>des choses qui nécessitent la pleine appartenance au RCMI (comme, par
> >>exemple, l'usage d'un nom de domaine « .indymedia.org » pour leurs sites
> >>ouaibbe). Nous espérons qu'au futur, les deux groups deviendront
> >>affiliés (voir le point 3).
> >>
> >>LIENS :
> >>[1] http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/new-imc/2004-May/005125.html
> >>[2]
> >>http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-July/0712-xa.html
> >>                              ######
> >>(en)
> >>PROPOSAL concerning Darwin/Arafura and new-imc
> >>
> >>We ask IMCN, through its liaisons on "imc-process," to instruct new-imc
> >>as to the affiliation status of these groups.  This following statement
> >>of understanding has been the de facto approach of those new-imc members
> >>working with these groups, and we are now PROPOSING to make it official
> >>if it passes consensus on imc-process by the network through its
> >>liaisons from local imc collectives.  If it does not, then we request
> >>further clarification of how we are to proceed.
> >>
> >>
> >>STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING REGARDING ARAFURA & DARWIN IMC'S:
> >>
> >>1) This statement concerns the IMC Darwin collective, who started their
> >>"new imc" process in May 2004 [1] and whose membership in the Indy Media
> >>Center Network (IMCN) was accepted by consensus of "IMC process" in July
> >>2004 [2].
> >>
> >>2) Some time after having been approved this group experienced a severe
> >>internal conflict. Two collectives have emerged from this, both of which
> >>now have "New Candidate" status with "New-imc". Their email lists are
> >>here:
> >>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-darwin
> >>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-arafura
> >>
> >>   3) The new-imc working group has been working together with both of
> >>them towards the common goal of each of them being proposed by "New-imc"
> >>to "imc-process" as member collectives of the IMCN.
> >>
> >>4) The IMC Darwin collective accepted into IMCN membership in 2004 was
> >>never formally "disaffiliated" from the IMCN on "imc-process". However,
> >>we are acting with the understanding that - at the moment - neither of
> >>the collectives with which "new-imc" is now working should be considered
> >>affiliated, or have use of those things which are contingent upon full
> >>membership in the IMCN (such as, for example, the use of a
> >>".indymedia.org" domain name for their websites).  We hope that in the
> >>future, both groups will become affiliated (see point 3).
> >>
> >>LINKS:
> >>
> >>[1] http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/new-imc/2004-May/005125.html
> >>[2]
> >>http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-July/0712-xa.html
> >>######################################################################
> >>
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> >
>
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